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Finds and Deals - Leather Jacket Edition

Claybertrand

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The brown one looks definitively like Goat......... the black one looks like steer/horse....... Seems that Goat was used more in the older jackets (30s-40s) than it was later on and it SEEMS like you see it more from the Bay Area makers. It would make sense as a lighter hide in warmer climate. Not that SF is LA but it certainly ain't Chicago or Milwaukee
 

tmitchell59

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The brown one looks definitively like Goat......... the black one looks like steer/horse....... Seems that Goat was used more in the older jackets (30s-40s) than it was later on and it SEEMS like you see it more from the Bay Area makers. It would make sense as a lighter hide in warmer climate. Not that SF is LA but it certainly ain't Chicago or Milwaukee

I always think West Coast when I see a goatskin police jacket, warm weather jackets. Heck most vintage goatskin jackets say California to me.

Pre-war goatskin police jacket; maker unknown.

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Made in California goatskin

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photo2u

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The brown one looks definitively like Goat......... the black one looks like steer/horse....... Seems that Goat was used more in the older jackets (30s-40s) than it was later on and it SEEMS like you see it more from the Bay Area makers. It would make sense as a lighter hide in warmer climate. Not that SF is LA but it certainly ain't Chicago or Milwaukee

I always think West Coast when I see a goatskin police jacket, warm weather jackets. Heck most vintage goatskin jackets say California to me.

Pre-war goatskin police jacket; maker unknown.

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Made in California goatskin

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The black police jacket is a Californian. Many of the details scream to me like the cut,sewing technique,front pockets,sleeves and belt loops. T, are you joking? You would have spot it right away... LOL. love your jackets. I always have. I always wondered who purchased that nice Herc with the red lining? A very dear friend of mine who no longer with us had that jacket. Now that he passed, I am looking for one, to to remember him.
 

ObiJuanValdez

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I'm still very new to this leather jacket culture, and don't yet own any vintage, but I find the attraction to the old police jackets interesting. For me, I just can't get past the badge holders. They stick out like a sore thumb, and just ruin the whole aesthetic for me. Do they bother anyone else, or am I just getting carried away with OCD?
 

photo2u

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I'm still very new to this leather jacket culture, and don't yet own any vintage, but I find the attraction to the old police jackets interesting. For me, I just can't get past the badge holders. They stick out like a sore thumb, and just ruin the whole aesthetic for me. Do they bother anyone else, or am I just getting carried away with OCD?

OCD friend! In true honesty it does not bother me. I know some love those details and are willing to pay more for jackets that still have the holder. Personally, I rather have the holder than the wholes on the jacket.
 

mumpy

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I'm still very new to this leather jacket culture, and don't yet own any vintage, but I find the attraction to the old police jackets interesting. For me, I just can't get past the badge holders. They stick out like a sore thumb, and just ruin the whole aesthetic for me. Do they bother anyone else, or am I just getting carried away with OCD?
Same for me, I wouldn't wear one for this reason alone. Also I dislike the idea of wearing a police jacket because of what it represents.
 
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I'm still very new to this leather jacket culture, and don't yet own any vintage, but I find the attraction to the old police jackets interesting. For me, I just can't get past the badge holders. They stick out like a sore thumb, and just ruin the whole aesthetic for me. Do they bother anyone else, or am I just getting carried away with OCD?

They're part of the jacket. Why would they bother you?
 

Claybertrand

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Same for me, I wouldn't wear one for this reason alone. Also I dislike the idea of wearing a police jacket because of what it represents.
I don't think wearing a vintage 40s police jacket is any kind of political statement or particular representation.

To me, its simply that these jackets---and I am speaking mainly of the truly vintage jackets like the one @tmitchell59 is listing ---were some of the earliest heavy duty leather jackets made and so they sorta have their place in the historical timeline of the evolution of leather jackets. Like the early moto jackets were often military jackets and worn by former soldiers but they were worn for their function not to have people saluting them. I can understand not preferring holes in the leather, the police patches and badge holders as a matter of taste. I have grown to accept badge holders yet I am still not a big fan of epaulettes though they are certainly not deal breakers for me.

These old jackets are not just collected because they are police jackets. To me, that's not in and of itself the attraction. Rather its the age and quality of the hide and the construction. It may also be the maker. Some known iconic vintage makers made police jackets and the rarity alone of these makers is an attraction. Some are collectors more so than -- or at least as much as---fashionistas.

Personally I am not a fan of modern police jackets particularly ones in active use. I am not trying to impersonate a police officer. Lol.
 

Claybertrand

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This guy is not trying to impersonate a gas station attendant, but rocks an iconic jacket.

https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/what-jacket-are-you-wearing-today.82949/post-2962649

Same with cop jackets. I am with Clay though, they have to be old.
Great post man!!! I didn't catch the original post on Friday. @Marc mndt is 100% correct!! I have one of these without the patch and I have not been able to find the correct size of patch to re-attach. I have not seen one of these with the patch intact. AND its a Horsehide!! Mine is Steerhide. The collars on these jackets are great!!

I was going to reference these jackets when explaining about the Police Jackets. These are just really old leather jackets and the fact that they were uniform jackets may not put them in the same desirability category for some as if the jacket were just a normal out of the catalog model. But the flip side is they are perhaps MORE unique and rare. Though the patch may not seem super cool, as a fashion aspect, its something different, authentic and historical.
 
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Just in case anyone was in the market for a lightly used Hard On
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The measurements indicate a 40” but man if those sleeves were 2” longer I’d bin the shit outta that and immediately remove that label. Looks just like my Walter Dyer. I *think* these were made by Johnson leathers and relabeled for the laughably named retail store.
I mean just combine the maker and the retail outlet and you’ve got the San Fran leather jacket scene about covered. LOL. Kick ass jacket in any case.
“Hard On is proud to offer this Johnson for your consideration”.
LOOL.
 
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Same for me, I wouldn't wear one for this reason alone. Also I dislike the idea of wearing a police jacket because of what it represents.

What does it represent to you? Or is it the impersonation or uniform thing that some have concerns with? Sort of like not wanting to wear an MC jacket if you don’t ride. IMO, both concerns are unwarranted. Wear what ya like.

I like the badge holders. I prefer jackets that have them and I dig how they look.
 

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