Face Masks And other DIY projects

[zebedee]

Bathhouses reopen. People cross-contaminate with Covid19, HIV, H1N1, Hepatitis.......New vaccine resistant strains of viruses develop.

Western Civilization all but evaporates.

A lone man, with flowing locks like Jesus, wearing a vest with buttons on the wrong side, rises from the Islands of Sumatra and Java - to save the world with a wondrous caffeinated elixir.

And then there's always a downside.

I'd recommend Indonesian coffee, too- much of Indonesia is outstandingly beautiful and worth a visit, or, if bathhouses do indeed lay us low, our culture from Greece to Glamorgan erased in a towel-crack- we'll know where to head.

 

[Fifty150]

if bathhouses do indeed lay us low, our culture from Greece to Glamorgan erased in a towel-crack-

Was it bathhouses that caused the downfall of the ancient Greeks?

 

[belfastboy]

Was it bathhouses that caused the downfall of the ancient Greeks?

No, I think it was the Greeks that have to own it.

 

[zebedee]

Was it bathhouses that caused the downfall of the ancient Greeks?

No, warfare did. Bath houses haven't done the current ones in yet, either.

 

[navetsea]

I see a reason for a bathhouse in ancient community that didnt have private bathroom. Or hot spring with its mineral property whatever it is for soothing skin condition. I see japanese still go to bathhouses, i see on tv program about house renovation, no matter how small their house they still need to have a bathtub, and bathroom with windows.

 

[navetsea]

And then there's always a downside.

I'd recommend Indonesian coffee, too- much of Indonesia is outstandingly beautiful and worth a visit, or, if bathhouses do indeed lay us low, our culture from Greece to Glamorgan erased in a towel-crack- we'll know where to head.

I often heard coffee called java, now i live in Java, i never see one in store, here we have arabika and robusta and blend of the two. i just bought coffee called toraja, now i wonder if in toraja they would also get surprized about coffee named after their place. From pictures Indonesia seems to have many beautiful beaches, probably underwater scenery too, probably many of those places are still not exploited for tourism, i m surprised myself when i google my region, that we have so many beaches i never see before, but getting there one need to drive long small winding road through rural areas, probably has to walk on foot few kilometers.

 

[navetsea]

......wearing a vest with buttons on the wrong side, rises from the Islands ......Java - to save the world with a wondrous caffeinated elixir.

Do I have a problem with you? Lots of unprovoked jabs there

 

[handymike]

This just in from The New York Times:

It may be time for everyone to mask up
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is having second thoughts about masks.

For weeks, it (and we) said that ordinary citizens in the U.S. did not need to wear them unless they were sick and coughing or were caring for someone who was.

Now, with the number of cases in the U.S. doubling every three or four days, it looks as though that may not have been the best advice.

New data cited by Dr. Robert Redfield, the director of the C.D.C., shows high rates of transmission by people who are infected but don’t know it yet. An infected person can be contagious for 48 hours before developing symptoms, if they get them at all. Having a mask on could cut down on the number of transmissions from asymptomatic people.

So the C.D.C. is now considering whether to recommend that more people — maybe everybody — wear a mask when out in public.

Not a high-grade N95 medical mask, though. Those are scarce and should still be saved for those who need them most, medical professionals and others on the front lines. One reason the C.D.C. hesitated to advise universal mask-wearing was to avoid making shortages of those masks even worse.

But for this purpose, you don’t need that type; ordinary surgical masks and even homemade masks will do. They will help slow transmission in the community, even though they don’t ensure complete protection for the wearer.

And there’s a side benefit: Wearing any kind of mask, even a bandanna, will make you less likely to touch your face — an important route for infection.

 

[Will Zach]

Amazing. The incompetence level of the CDC is staggering. It has been obvious even to an idiot like me that coronavirus spread is driven by asymptomatic people, ever since Chinese said so in January. It is obvious that masks worn by everyone stopped the spread in Asia. Damn CDC fools.

 

[Fifty150]

I often heard coffee called java, now i live in Java, i never see one in store, here we have arabika and robusta and blend of the two.

Pricing and availability. The supply from 1 island is small, compared to demand worldwide. It's priced out of the local economy. In California, we have sea urchin. Most people here have never tried it. The fishermen make more selling it to people across the world. Same thing happens with ginseng from Alabama. Nobody in Alabama uses ginseng. You will not find it for sale in any local grocery store. Automotive fuel is refined from crude oil about 15 miles from me. Only a 15 minute drive. Local fuel prices are almost highest in the nation. The same fuel is sold, hundreds of miles away, for 1/3 less retail cost.

Do I have a problem with you? Lots of unprovoked jabs there

Apologies. Not trying to offend you.

 

[Fifty150]

So the C.D.C. is now considering whether to recommend that more people — maybe everybody — wear a mask when out in public.

ever since Chinese said so in January

CDC is probably wondering if their recommendations are even heard.

Some people just don't listen, no matter what. Young people want to party. Religious people want to worship. I want to watch a baseball game. And apparently, some people want to take baths with strangers.

In all fairness, China also changed cultural practices. No more family style meals, where everyone eats from the same dish.

 

[Fifty150]

How do you guys think

pretty good.

A long, long time ago......

 

[navetsea]

we have luwak coffee which is expensive and rare (and totally disgusting) but never heard of Java Coffee here at all. I suspect it is a term just used by people abroad about coffee in general, in the earlier centuries perhaps java might have once a coffee producing land or perhaps the warehouse for all the coffee collected all around indonesia before being transported out by colonial dutch company, perhaps, but it is not a varian of coffee like arabica.

 

[Fifty150]

We’re also working on growing some food. Here is our lettuce patch growing from some cut off stems.

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I live in The City. In my apartment on the 13th floor, with a small balcony, that is the only way to grow anything. Carrots. Bok choy. Green onions. Mustard. Mint. All sorts of groceries can be regrown.

 

[Fifty150]

 

[navetsea]

do less hugging, I honestly can't remember the last time I hug my mother or siblings (probably never), I loved my grandma, but apart from guiding her rollator, or carrying her onto the car seat I didn't remember too the last time I hug her when she was still alive, naturally seems like here we have bigger personal space even among family member, we smile, say hi, bow a little and wave hand, I dunno if its only my family.

I know for sure I shake the hand of my sister and mum when saying happy birthday, no kisses no hugging.

 

[jonesy86]

Cant find any masks, but I figure a bandana is better than nothing. I'm mostly staying home accept to get some exercise and fresh air, but then I stay wall away from other people.

 

[Edward]

Yes, one of the misconceptions spread here in Canada is the notion that....."diversity is our strength". Well yes and no. In societies that are ethnically homogenous it is easier for them to follow a collective direction. In this respect diversity is not our strength.....but then we are not allowed to say that.

Conflating ethnicity and culture is a dangerous road to go down. Soem overlap in some conditions yes; same thing - far from it.

It will be real bad for people who believe in prayer over modern medicine and science. There are people whose faith rejects science and technology. Then there are the people whom are convinced that all deaths are a part of your fate and destiny. I have personally spoken to people who believe that this is Pestilence, as in The 4 Horsemen. So if there is war, famine, and death anywhere else in the world........

Frankly, these days I'm not one to rule out apocalyptic predictions. I've long had the notion of the Divine rolling his or her eyes at people arriving in the aftrerlife and saying "what do you mean I didn't heal you? I sent you a damn doctor, didn't I?"

^^
That is cool. I can take their vaccine when it becomes available. And, btw, anti-vaxxers should not be getting any vaccine either.

I can certainly understand the emtional appeal of such a policy. Problem is that the anti-vaxxer crowd are exactly the type who will refuse it, claiming they have no symptoms, but given that half of people who get it are asymptomatic... One of the first "superspreaders" in the UK was aguy who came back from a business trip to Singapore, before spread outside China was unknown, and infected a dozen folks (that we know of - how many more who breathed in the same, recycled air on the plane?) before he was tested positive. Then there are those who, having had it once, will be reckless, not realising it can recurr. We may get to a stage where vaccination will have to be mandatory and universal to work.

Do I have a problem with you? Lots of unprovoked jabs there

I believe Fifty150 was only, as we say here, "winding you up". Teasing. Sort of thing in the West we do to people we hold in high esteem / affection. Tone can easily be missed online.

Amazing. The incompetence level of the CDC is staggering. It has been obvious even to an idiot like me that coronavirus spread is driven by asymptomatic people, ever since Chinese said so in January. It is obvious that masks worn by everyone stopped the spread in Asia. Damn CDC fools.

They are, of course, up against having their information filtered through the media... It does seem that knowledge of this thing is still evolving. Initially health authorities over here they did suggest that masks wouldn't help, on the basis that they might encourage people to take risks they shouldn't, thinking they were safe. As things carry on and it beocmes apparent this is going to be a long-haul thing, this seems to be evolving into a notion that a mask can't *hurt* and might be better than nothing. Unfortunatley for modern medicine, sometimes there really are no absolutes.

 

[navetsea]

sure in that case I'm sorry, I usually can feel the jest but that's one missed me, that's why I asked.

 

[Carlos840]

Bathhouses reopen. People cross-contaminate with Covid19, HIV, H1N1, Hepatitis.......New vaccine resistant strains of viruses develop.

Western Civilization all but evaporates.

A lone man, with flowing locks like Jesus, wearing a vest with buttons on the wrong side, rises from the Islands of Sumatra and Java - to save the world with a wondrous caffeinated elixir.

So you are blaming the future end of the world on gay men, nice!
Your posts read very weirdly...

What about straight bars and brothels? Are they Ok or will they also cause the end of the world?