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Ebay Hats: Victories, Defeats, Gripes & Items of Interest

Just Daniel

One Too Many
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Well, buyer beware. Gripe continued and closed.

Looks like dad is at it again. After questions over my original gripe, here are links to a hat from “dad’s collection” on eBay and from Goodwill earlier in the month.

https://www.shopgoodwill.com/Item/75224953

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Excellent-Stetson-40s-50s-Open-Road-SilverBelly-7/323923255617

“A very rare excellent 1940s-early 50s Open Road SilverBelly Open Road. This is an excellent collectors hat, you just don't find these in this condition anywhere. This is in new condition! Dad took excellent care of all of his hats in his collection.”

“If you have any question please write. Dad seems to know quite a bit about this hat. It was one he bought and just stored away, like so many others. See dad's other listing, it's a fantastic collection.”

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AbbaDatDeHat

I'll Lock Up
Messages
8,852
Well, buyer beware. Gripe continued and closed.

Looks like dad is at it again. After questions over my original gripe, here are links to a hat from “dad’s collection” on eBay and from Goodwill earlier in the month.

https://www.shopgoodwill.com/Item/75224953

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Excellent-Stetson-40s-50s-Open-Road-SilverBelly-7/323923255617

“A very rare excellent 1940s-early 50s Open Road SilverBelly Open Road. This is an excellent collectors hat, you just don't find these in this condition anywhere. This is in new condition! Dad took excellent care of all of his hats in his collection.”

“If you have any question please write. Dad seems to know quite a bit about this hat. It was one he bought and just stored away, like so many others. See dad's other listing, it's a fantastic collection.”

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Well, that answers the questions for me.
That IS the same hat and that is the same language for all Dad’s “collection”.

This is disappointment to me as i have purchased several things from this seller. Not hats but other stuff and have communicated with them in a friendly manner including about Dad’s basically end of life illness.

At minimum there is obvious continual misrepresentation for some 3 years.
At worst “stolen grief” which is despicable human waste!
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drmaxtejeda

I'll Lock Up
Messages
8,363
Location
Mexico City
Well, that answers the questions for me.
That IS the same hat and that is the same language for all Dad’s “collection”.

This is disappointment to me as i have purchased several things from this seller. Not hats but other stuff and have communicated with them in a friendly manner including about Dad’s basically end of life illness.

At minimum there is obvious continual misrepresentation for some 3 years.
At worst “stolen grief” which is despicable human waste!
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I agree!

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drmaxtejeda

I'll Lock Up
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8,363
Location
Mexico City
Well, buyer beware. Gripe continued and closed.

Looks like dad is at it again. After questions over my original gripe, here are links to a hat from “dad’s collection” on eBay and from Goodwill earlier in the month.

https://www.shopgoodwill.com/Item/75224953

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Excellent-Stetson-40s-50s-Open-Road-SilverBelly-7/323923255617

“A very rare excellent 1940s-early 50s Open Road SilverBelly Open Road. This is an excellent collectors hat, you just don't find these in this condition anywhere. This is in new condition! Dad took excellent care of all of his hats in his collection.”

“If you have any question please write. Dad seems to know quite a bit about this hat. It was one he bought and just stored away, like so many others. See dad's other listing, it's a fantastic collection.”

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Maybe I will send him a message on eBay: "Hey, I am glad your Dad is doing OK. I saw him buying this hat on Goodwill last week"

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drmaxtejeda

I'll Lock Up
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8,363
Location
Mexico City
You forgot step 2.5: Forget what you were doing and drive the care without any oil and burn up the engine.

I only change my own oil because that’s the extent of my mechanic skill set and it makes my wife think I “know about cars.”


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LOL!
Ana laughed too!
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drmaxtejeda

I'll Lock Up
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8,363
Location
Mexico City
Gotta respect that!

It's just a marketing gimmick. There's no Betty Crocker, either. [emoji16]

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I did send him the mesage! I once had a long conversation with him about his Dad's health.

Here it is:
"Hey, I am glad your Dad is doing OK. I saw him buying this hat on Goodwill last week. I think he won it for $21.00"

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Just Daniel

One Too Many
Messages
1,454
And adding to that: telling stories is one thing, but cases where the provenance of items are misrepresented can be fraud.

Saying a hat was on display or in a collection for years is guaranteeing something clear about it’s use and condition. If the hat actually came from Goodwill, then the seller is misrepresenting that history and possibly committing fraud.


Well, that answers the questions for me.
That IS the same hat and that is the same language for all Dad’s “collection”.

This is disappointment to me as i have purchased several things from this seller. Not hats but other stuff and have communicated with them in a friendly manner including about Dad’s basically end of life illness.

At minimum there is obvious continual misrepresentation for some 3 years.
At worst “stolen grief” which is despicable human waste!
B
 

TheOldFashioned

Call Me a Cab
Messages
2,180
Location
The Great Lakes
I've thought about writing to this same guy and telling him to cut the crap about the amount of X's on these hats. I think there was a 12X Cavanagh recently for sale. Really??? For the prices he's asking people would have to be serious about a buying hats, and if you're serious about buying hats then you'd know there isn't a 12X Cavanagh. To me it just delegitimizes himself as a seller.
 
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19,427
Location
Funkytown, USA
I did send him the mesage! I once had a long conversation with him about his Dad's health.

Here it is:
"Hey, I am glad your Dad is doing OK. I saw him buying this hat on Goodwill last week. I think he won it for $21.00"

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Well, he's got you blocked now, Max!

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Messages
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Location
Funkytown, USA
And adding to that: telling stories is one thing, but cases where the provenance of items are misrepresented can be fraud.

Saying a hat was on display or in a collection for years is guaranteeing something clear about it’s use and condition. If the hat actually came from Goodwill, then the seller is misrepresenting that history and possibly committing fraud.
Good point.

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11,381
Location
Alabama
Saying a hat was on display or in a collection for years is guaranteeing something clear about it’s use and condition. If the hat actually came from Goodwill, then the seller is misrepresenting that history and possibly committing fraud.

I would think so but what recourse would there be other than notifying the bay and maybe they'll do something about the seller or invalidating a transaction with the seller.
 

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