Edward
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I have, when feeling brave enough, offered my seat to ladies before now. Contrary to popular belief among a surprising number of boorish men who like to come over all feminist only on occasions when that means they don't have to give up their seat , while a number of ladies have politely declined, I've never ha anyone make any expression of being offended by such a 'sexist' offer. If I'm out on the town with a lady, I would naturally give her the preferential treatment with seats and so on, though I think that's simple politeness to someone you like spending time with over and above it being a gender issue. [huh]
I can well understand the modern notion that a woman doesn't necessarily want to have a seat just because she's female. I should hope, though, that noone would presume me to be a hideous, sexist old fossil simply because I choose to offer. [huh]
Yeah, same here in London. I love not having to own a car. Back in Northern Ireland, I'd have had no choice, as the public transport network is so limited, but it's a finanicial drain I'd rather avoid!! Course, there will always be those who consider themselves above public transport.... and they need to leave three or four times the amount of travle time to get anywhere by road.
I'd like to cycle in London myself, not to avoid public transport, but for the exercise (that and I covet pretty vintage-style bikes), however I am not actually suicidal, renering it impractical.
I tend to do that when it's busy - leave the seats forf those more able to stand.
lol I've taken my girls on the tube before - they didn't like it, but they soon stopped fretting when they realised they could generate a lot of attention by looking cute.... lol
Aye, that's the truth. Re the pregnancy thing, if one always offers one's seat to a lady irrespective, then... [huh] I mean, I can deal with this modern gener equality and all, but the guys who trot out the loathesome 'better a pregnant lady stands than a fat lass sits crying' nonsense (that's a direct quote from a letter to one of the London freesheets the last time this matter was raised therein) as a cheap excuse to be selfish.... pathetic. Even worse, IMO, was the guy who wrote in and insisted "these women chose to get pregnant, so i don't see why I should have to give up my seat for them..." Unbelievable.
I can well understand the modern notion that a woman doesn't necessarily want to have a seat just because she's female. I should hope, though, that noone would presume me to be a hideous, sexist old fossil simply because I choose to offer. [huh]
mike said:To add my two cents about various classes of people in NYC riding the subway, it is one of the things NY'ers pride themselves on; in lots of cities, public transport is for the very poor but here it is the great equalizer.
Yeah, same here in London. I love not having to own a car. Back in Northern Ireland, I'd have had no choice, as the public transport network is so limited, but it's a finanicial drain I'd rather avoid!! Course, there will always be those who consider themselves above public transport.... and they need to leave three or four times the amount of travle time to get anywhere by road.
I'd like to cycle in London myself, not to avoid public transport, but for the exercise (that and I covet pretty vintage-style bikes), however I am not actually suicidal, renering it impractical.
Hemingway Jones said:Since I bought my Vespa, I almost never take the T anymore, but when I do, I don't even bother to sit. That sorts it all out for me.
I tend to do that when it's busy - leave the seats forf those more able to stand.
Miss Neecerie said:I keep reading this as Cats on the Subway...which is really a lot more interesting topic then the same old 'no one has manners discussion'
Although I usually see cats on subways as being related to gypsy musical groups on subways.....related phenomena...
lol I've taken my girls on the tube before - they didn't like it, but they soon stopped fretting when they realised they could generate a lot of attention by looking cute.... lol
Fleur De Guerre said:If a man offered me a seat on the underground/bus, I'd probably think I needed to lose weight, or buy a girdle! lol Likewise I have a terrible fear of offering my seat to a 'pregnant' lady, only to find out she's not actually pregnant! It helps that pregnant ladies can get badges from the Undergound saying 'Baby on Board', still, I have seen many a row of young bankers bury their noses further into their copies of City AM in order to 'not notice' the pregnant woman standing in the aisle in front of them. And while I would never expect to be offered a seat out of the blue, it does bug me to be constantly be barged out of the way by men trying to get on first so as to get a seat. That is just rude, in my opinion.
Aye, that's the truth. Re the pregnancy thing, if one always offers one's seat to a lady irrespective, then... [huh] I mean, I can deal with this modern gener equality and all, but the guys who trot out the loathesome 'better a pregnant lady stands than a fat lass sits crying' nonsense (that's a direct quote from a letter to one of the London freesheets the last time this matter was raised therein) as a cheap excuse to be selfish.... pathetic. Even worse, IMO, was the guy who wrote in and insisted "these women chose to get pregnant, so i don't see why I should have to give up my seat for them..." Unbelievable.