Babbo Philipe
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i just dig this picture, a rough drawingCamille Pissarro with his new Manufacture de Bérets merinos d'Arles 12p, he's very content! View attachment 375608
i just dig this picture, a rough drawingCamille Pissarro with his new Manufacture de Bérets merinos d'Arles 12p, he's very content! View attachment 375608
Hello, fellow Boineros! I’m a new member to this forum and joined after reading all 157 pages of this thread.
Reading through all the pages over the past couple of weeks felt like reading a really interesting docudrama novel. I loved reading the early dramas among members, the rise of @Daan as the boina expert of the thread, the arrival of Trump and COVID, the closures of loved beret factories (Deer, Blancq-Olibet), factory fires, the passing of beloved and historical figures in the beret world, members’ personal injuries and family pictures, and so many exquisite historical photos and videos.
In all those pages is truly the foundation of a great community, and before I join-in and start sharing about me and my passion for boinas/txapelas I wanted to give my respects and appreciation to what has come before so we can keep it going in 2022 and beyond!
Thank you for teaching me so much about the history and character of this humble, artisanal accessory that means so much to all of us here. More to come!
Hi @Fedster - I have three fur/leather aviator hats (made in Iceland for me) and several cabbies/flat caps. Oh, and one really special fedora from Colombia. But like you, now that I have my boina/beret collection, I’m wearing these almost exclusively even in very cold weather. I’m using Behind-the-Head Ear Warmers with the boina to stay warm in 0°C or colder. Here’s yesterday, wearing an Elosegui fina.Questions: are you wearing any other hat? I am hat man, but since I started wearing berets/boinas I have abandoned all other hats but one (my ushanka which I use when it is below -5C). I love my akubras and tilleys, but I have never worn them any more after switching, and I doubt I will wear them ever again!
Pouces, centimeters, pulgadas, inches, millimeters... It all makes my brain hurt!
It also does not help the situation that -- according to Boinas Elosegui -- that the "United States, Panama, and other places" use a different length for their pulgadas?!
My little cheat sheet (with absolutely no guarantees of accuracy) follows. It gets me a quick estimate of a beret's diameter in a format that is easier for me to visualize...
("inch" refers to a U.S. inch)
(all numbers rounded up/down for my convenience)
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***Una pulgada castellana equivalía a 23,22 milímetros. Actualmente en Estados Unidos, Panamá y otros países se usa una pulgada de 25,4 milímetros.***
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***1 pulgada B.E. = aprox. 23,3 mm*** ^(23,22 mm)^
10 pulg = 233 mm* = 9.1 in
10,5 pulg = 244 mm* = 9.6 in
11 pulg = 256 mm* = 10.1 in
11,5 pulg = 268 mm* = 10.5 in
12 pulg = 279 mm = 11.0 in
12,5 pulg = 291 mm = 11.4 in
13 pulg = 302 mm = 11.9 in
13,5 pulg = 314 mm = 12.3 in
14 pulg = 326 mm* = 12.8 in
15 pulg* = 349 mm* = 13.7 in
16 pulg* = 372 mm* = 14.6 in
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9 pouce = 9.6 in
9.5 pouce = 10.1 in
10 pouce = 10.7 in
10.5 pouce = 11.2 in
11 pouce = 11.7 in
11.5 pouce = 12.3 in
12 pouce = 12.8 in
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9 inch = 228.6 mm
9.5 inch = 241.3 mm
10 inch = 254 mm
10.5 inch = 266.7 mm
11 inch = 279.4 mm
11.5 inch = 292.1 mm
12 inch = 304.8 mm
12.5 inch = 317.5 mm
13 inch = 330.2 mm
13.5 inch = 342.9 mm
14 inch = 355.6 mm
14.5 inch = 368.3 mm
15 inch = 381 mm
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I have both. My 1858 feels like a proper hat because of the soft, calfskin sweatband (feels supple like calfskin.) The wool is dense, soft and highly shapeable but always blacked of blacks. Feels like an elegant hat, but obviously a boina nonetheless. The correct size is important to get with the 1858, both in circumference in the headband size, but also the depth of the vuelo (how migo the hat is and how much material one has to play the shape with.) Note: 1858s also come with out leather sweatbands.Elosegui Exposición Año 1858 or Super Lujo? Looking at both and not seeing the difference clearly spelled out anywhere. Any help is appreciated.
Elosegui Exposición Año 1858 or Super Lujo? Looking at both and not seeing the difference clearly spelled out anywhere. Any help is appreciated.
Question for the members:
people talk about rolling up their boinas and folding them away in their pockets. Could you show me what you mean? Take a picture of how you “roll and fold” your boinas and post it here, because when I do this it looks like a small burrito and wouldn’t actually fit in my pocket.
Hi @Daan — rolled up like this? Is it supposed to be this big? Do you do it differently?Great to see all this new activity on the forum! There were a few questions asked that I may be able to answer:
- When people talk about rolling up their beret, this is typically referred to a universel, or headband-less beret. This is one of the advantages of an universel over a beret with headband, which is usually stiff (the Auloronesa being the exception) and prone to crack or break over time. An universel can be tightly rolled and easily stuffed in a pocket.
- The difference between the Exposicións Año 1858 and Super Lujo: the first is slightly heavier compared to the same diameter Super Lujo, but more significant, softer to the touch due to the longer brushing process.
- A comparison between an Elósegui Super Lujo, or Año 1858 with an Auloronesa is a difficult one, as the berets are as different from each other as Basque berets can be. Both brands are, with the Flamingo's, my absolute favorites, all top quality but certainly different from each other. The Super Lujo gets it impermeability from Teflon treatment, whereas the Auloronesa is impermeable from the specific way the berets are knitted and felted - without additives. The Elósegui berets, or boinas are made of Australian merino wool, whereas the Auloronesas are made of French merino wool (which is hard to get and is the reason that stock in a certain colour or diameter can be sold out for a while). The models with leather headband are very different; Elósegui uses a relatively thick band of leather that is stiff and, if not rightly sized, leaves an imprint on your forehead. Auloronesa uses the same soft leather as used for the upholstery of the top French cars, which is supple and soft (but makes the berets very expensive). And most significant of course is that a Super Lujo needs breaking in (some stretching, adjusting to size and shape), whereas the Auloronesa Universel is size adjustable and ready to wear.
Exactly! Naturally, the diameter of the beret determines how long it is, but most stay comfortably in the back pocket of my jeans.Hi @Daan — rolled up like this? Is it supposed to be this big? Do you do it differently?
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Gotcha. I was worried that the rolling up would create creases or damage the felt (and I tried folding it in half, looking more like a fortune cookie than a burrito!)Exactly! Naturally, the diameter of the beret determines how long it is, but most stay comfortably in the back pocket of my jeans.