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BARBISIO Brothers

Daniele Tanto

I'll Lock Up
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Verona - Italia
It is very hard to find homburg branded Barbisio.
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This is the second in perfect condition that I find on the Italian market
In sparse and unclear photographs of the seller it was not possible to understand the color and state of preservation.
So I looked for an agreement to buy some hats and I had found more in its selling list.
The origin of the fur indicating that composes it has been the main reason for my interest.
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Hardly in Italian hats or Europeans are indications marked on the origin of the mixture of furs that makes them.
Borsalino is the company that gave greater importance to this aspect of production.
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In this case the Barbisio is marked "rat-gondin" or Nutria from this side and the other side of the Atlantic and it is on the lining that stamped on sweatband
The color is gray with blue or purple hues. Felt is thin and medium soft.
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The size, as mentioned, is 58 cm. or 7 1/4 US. Curled brim are 5 cm. and crown 12 cm. with a matching ribbon of 4 cm.
201q82.jpg

The hat is one of the best vintage Barbisio I've seen.
Supremely elegant hat
 
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12,384
Location
Albany Oregon
It is very hard to find homburg branded Barbisio.
201q82.jpg

This is the second in perfect condition that I find on the Italian market
In sparse and unclear photographs of the seller it was not possible to understand the color and state of preservation.
So I looked for an agreement to buy some hats and I had found more in its selling list.
The origin of the fur indicating that composes it has been the main reason for my interest.
200e5h2.jpg

Hardly in Italian hats or Europeans are indications marked on the origin of the mixture of furs that makes them.
Borsalino is the company that gave greater importance to this aspect of production.
nd0is5.jpg

In this case the Barbisio is marked "rat-gondin" or Nutria from this side and the other side of the Atlantic and it is on the lining that stamped on sweatband
The color is gray with blue or purple hues. Felt is thin and medium soft.
19twuw.jpg

The size, as mentioned, is 58 cm. or 7 1/4 US. Curled brim are 5 cm. and crown 12 cm. with a matching ribbon of 4 cm.
201q82.jpg

The hat is one of the best vintage Barbisio I've seen.
Supremely elegant hat
Truly a beautiful soft felt dress hat from your neck of the woods. I'm impressed.
 
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17,521
Location
Maryland
It is very hard to find homburg branded Barbisio.
201q82.jpg

This is the second in perfect condition that I find on the Italian market
In sparse and unclear photographs of the seller it was not possible to understand the color and state of preservation.
So I looked for an agreement to buy some hats and I had found more in its selling list.
The origin of the fur indicating that composes it has been the main reason for my interest.
200e5h2.jpg

Hardly in Italian hats or Europeans are indications marked on the origin of the mixture of furs that makes them.
Borsalino is the company that gave greater importance to this aspect of production.
nd0is5.jpg

In this case the Barbisio is marked "rat-gondin" or Nutria from this side and the other side of the Atlantic and it is on the lining that stamped on sweatband
The color is gray with blue or purple hues. Felt is thin and medium soft.
19twuw.jpg

The size, as mentioned, is 58 cm. or 7 1/4 US. Curled brim are 5 cm. and crown 12 cm. with a matching ribbon of 4 cm.
201q82.jpg

The hat is one of the best vintage Barbisio I've seen.
Supremely elegant hat
Daniele, Fantastic! The felt and color combo is beautiful!
 

Daniele Tanto

I'll Lock Up
Messages
4,253
Location
Verona - Italia
This type of hat in form, finishes and colors is typical of the seventies in Italy
It was one of the last attempts of hats industry of this country to intercept the taste of the male audience that was changing rapidly.
It is interesting to see how two of the major competitors interpreted the same hat pattern
This is the perfect brother in the shape and color of the G.B. Borsalino fu Lazzaro I showed you a few weeks ago
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Here introduced is the twin with Barbisio brand
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The differences are in their felt because the finishes are top notch
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Barbisio use for the construction of a soft and very handy felt with a thicker consistency than that used in Borsalino
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The Alessandria product is more stiffer and mantains better shape
See the felt on Barbisio, the finishes are both excellent
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Super Barbisio Extra Lusso size is 58 cm. (7 1/4 US). Brim are 5 cm aand crown 11,5 cm. The ribbon is in the same fur felt as the hat
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Messages
12,384
Location
Albany Oregon
This type of hat in form, finishes and colors is typical of the seventies in Italy
It was one of the last attempts of hats industry of this country to intercept the taste of the male audience that was changing rapidly.
It is interesting to see how two of the major competitors interpreted the same hat pattern
This is the perfect brother in the shape and color of the G.B. Borsalino fu Lazzaro I showed you a few weeks ago
34q1kdt.jpg

Here introduced is the twin with Barbisio brand
okv39t.jpg

The differences are in their felt because the finishes are top notch
25srf2p.jpg

Barbisio use for the construction of a soft and very handy felt with a thicker consistency than that used in Borsalino
a0us8h.jpg

The Alessandria product is more stiffer and mantains better shape
See the felt on Barbisio, the finishes are both excellent
2e17f6g.jpg

Super Barbisio Extra Lusso size is 58 cm. (7 1/4 US). Brim are 5 cm aand crown 11,5 cm. The ribbon is in the same fur felt as the hat
cus6v.jpg
A very nice looking hat. The finish makes me want to touch it.
 

blueAZNmonkey

One Too Many
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1,446
Location
San Diego, CA
Howdy gents. I'll soon be a member of this fine brotherhood but not till the end of the week =)

I have some questions that I'm sure you guys could help me with:

If one's Barbisio does not have a date stamped on it, are there signs one can look for to determine the era?

Also, supposing one's Barbisio is lacking a "made in Italy" stamp on the sweat, but all markings are in Italian, is there a way to ensure that the hat truly did come from Italy?

Once I receive the hat, I'll post photos.

Thank you!
 
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17,521
Location
Maryland
It should be fairly easy to tell once you have it in hand and post photos. I haven't encountered a Barbisio that wasn't made in Italy. Cervo acquired the brand in 1982.
 

blueAZNmonkey

One Too Many
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San Diego, CA
The Barbisio name was licenced to be made in the USA during the late 1980's by Bollman and also in Columbia SA by Puerto Fino Hats. You can easily tell the differences between the Italian version and the other two.

Thanks! What are the signs? Is there more than the missing "made in Italy" that would give this away?
 

Daniele Tanto

I'll Lock Up
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4,253
Location
Verona - Italia
Blue it is difficult to say without pictures
Barbisio in its own history and Barbnisio-Cervo in the last thirty years made astounding hats
I saw in photos two Barbisio made in USA, but I can't tell nothing serious about them
In these months I'm discovering the Barbisio made in Cervo factory because I came accross some NOS hats
The quality is really high and I wonder why they had not the success they deserves.
For sure Besdor know why
If you are always interesting in homburgs I have two Barbisio to sell:rolleyes:
I'm waiting for the pictures
 

blueAZNmonkey

One Too Many
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1,446
Location
San Diego, CA
Blue it is difficult to say without pictures
Barbisio in its own history and Barbnisio-Cervo in the last thirty years made astounding hats
I saw in photos two Barbisio made in USA, but I can't tell nothing serious about them
In these months I'm discovering the Barbisio made in Cervo factory because I came accross some NOS hats
The quality is really high and I wonder why they had not the success they deserves.
For sure Besdor know why
If you are always interesting in homburgs I have two Barbisio to sell:rolleyes:
I'm waiting for the pictures
I may take you up on that if you have a medium gray homburg in 58! The one I am waiting to receive is a black homburg -- can't wait to have it in hand!
 

blueAZNmonkey

One Too Many
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Location
San Diego, CA
Ok brothers, here's the interior of the Barbisio homburg I just received. Wondering if you can help me date it and determine where it was manufactured?

Barbisio Titan:

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As you can see below, the inner sweatband is worn quite a bit. Unfortunately the seller did not mention this. But it doesn't bother me very much. I cleaned what I could and the exterior appearance is fine.

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There is no "made in Italy" stamp nor is there a date...

What do you think? Your help is greatly appreciated!
 

Daniele Tanto

I'll Lock Up
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4,253
Location
Verona - Italia
In the Italian hats there is no date.
Some shops use to stamp it with a timbre inside the sweatband, but usually in Italy there is no date in the hats.
In the hats made here the write "Made in Italy" could be present or not.
It depends if they are made for the interior market or for foreigns markets
Yours Barbisio was made in Sagliano Micca o near by.
Titan is the name of a production line of Barbisio during the sixties and seventies
It is a true Barbisio from the original factory!
Some pictures of the exterior of the Lobbia Barbisio will be appreciated
 

blueAZNmonkey

One Too Many
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Location
San Diego, CA
Here's the exterior. It had a really bad crease initially -- actually, there was hardly a discernible crease at all -- so I wanted to steam it up and set my bash in before photographing. Also, you may have noticed from my posts in the WHAYWT thread that I bash my homburgs in an oddball way -- diamond or teardrop. Means only an oddball would buy them off of me!

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The felt is wonderful. This may be my favorite hat by touch.

Thanks so much for helping me date and place this hat, Daniele! I'm so happy this is from Italy. It shipped in a Brooks Brothers hat box, so I thought I might have gotten a Bollman edition.

Thanks again!
 
Messages
12,384
Location
Albany Oregon
Here's the exterior. It had a really bad crease initially -- actually, there was hardly a discernible crease at all -- so I wanted to steam it up and set my bash in before photographing. Also, you may have noticed from my posts in the WHAYWT thread that I bash my homburgs in an oddball way -- diamond or teardrop. Means only an oddball would buy them off of me!

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15492495_10102910951292678_2038875995018359684_n.jpg

15420887_10102910951267728_6045162226014667391_n.jpg

14522695_10102910951192878_2472655184353578753_n.jpg

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The felt is wonderful. This may be my favorite hat by touch.

Thanks so much for helping me date and place this hat, Daniele! I'm so happy this is from Italy. It shipped in a Brooks Brothers hat box, so I thought I might have gotten a Bollman edition.

Thanks again!
Truly a beautiful Homburg my freind! The finish of the felt does look really smooth and luxurious. Nice find!
 

blueAZNmonkey

One Too Many
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San Diego, CA
Truly a beautiful Homburg my freind! The finish of the felt does look really smooth and luxurious. Nice find!

Thanks!! Been wearing it all morning :) I'll have to find more from this brand -- very smooth feel to this hat. I would put it right up there with my '50's St. Reggies. I wish modern hats had this felt quality...
 

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