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[Hurricane Jack]

Possibly. Bowlers are flatter on top than most people think, and if the BOP has a shorter crown, it may be a sort of optical illusion which is why I'm hoping someone can give a real side-by-side comparison.

Not to bu*tt in but one of the major differences is going to be in the crown shoulder of the BOP regardless of how flat top the bowler is or isn’t.

 

[jlee562]

Asking for a friend...

Does anyone have a Boss of the Plains AND a vintage Stetson bowler who could tell me how similar or different the crown shapes are from one another?

Thanks.

Well, not exactly. But here is my 1922 hat which comes from.the BOP/Austral lineage, my Knudsen repro BOP, and a Select Quality bowler.

 

[belfastboy]

Not to bu*tt in but one of the major differences is going to be in the crown shoulder of the BOP regardless of how flat top the bowler is or isn’t.

I welcome your input. What will that difference be?

 

[Hurricane Jack]

I welcome your input. What will that difference be?

The radii are different.

 

[belfastboy]

The radii are different.

But you don't know in which way and how much?

 

[belfastboy]

Possibly. Bowlers are flatter on top than most people think, and if the BOP has a shorter crown, it may be a sort of optical illusion which is why I'm hoping someone can give a real side-by-side comparison.

How close is the bowler in JLee's picture to the one you want? I am away all weekend doing grand nephew minding. I will block the hat on Monday and show the result.

 

[Hurricane Jack]

But you don't know in which way and how much?

The crown shoulder radius on a bowler is much more open & relaxed than a BOP, just like the radius of a BOP is much more open & relaxed than say a Gambler or Vaquero. But I haven’t measured any blocks.

 

[Rmccamey]

That is a key ingredient, Jack.

Not to bu*tt in but one of the major differences is going to be in the crown shoulder of the BOP regardless of how flat top the bowler is or isn’t.

The crown shoulder radius on a bowler is much more open & relaxed than a BOP, just like the radius of a BOP is much more open & relaxed than say a Gambler or Vaquero. But I haven’t measured any blocks.

 

[Rmccamey]

Thank you, Jared. Very helpful.

Well, not exactly. But here is my 1922 hat which comes from.the BOP/Austral lineage, my Knudsen repro BOP, and a Select Quality bowler.

 

[Rmccamey]

The crown top on Jared's BOP/Austral (first picture) is a reasonable approximation. But notice, also, the very straight sides of the bowler in contrast to the side taper on the BOP's (more noticeable on the front and rear of the crown). In addition to the shoulder radius, the straight/vertical sides all around the crown are also a key element in order to help differentiate a Bowler crown from an Open crown.

Thanks, Robert.

How close is the bowler in JLee's picture to the one you want? I am away all weekend doing grand nephew minding. I will block the hat on Monday and show the result.