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Rmccamey

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Is this a question, a statement, a commentary on world affairs, or does it go just in the Jokes thread?
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Ghostsoldier

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Another question for the experts, and it's about another Naked City television series hat (like my last one)....this time it's Detective Adam Flint's (Paul Burke) lid.

Can any of you sharp-eyed folks identify this hat by the inside label? I manages to get a couple of screenshots of the inside; and I threw in a couple of other shots so you can see the style...it kind of looks like a Dobbs, Champ, Knox or Stetson straw porkpie, but I'm not an expert and am only going by some vintage ads that I have. I was hoping that the inside label might help pinpoint the maker.
 

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harrytemp

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So I've been rotating hats because of different brims or color. I want to mix and match but lately it is becoming boring. So there is this hat I own that can be dry shaped easily. I try different styles creases when I'm bored with one. I know it sounds stupid but I get my joy wearing different styles than different color and brim.

I am going off the Stetson advertising with the Playboy hat and the various styles on the ad.
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Do any of you guys steam and crease your hats and call it a day? Or do you constantly change?

Not sure if constantly changing the crease will hurt the hat but I'm doing this on a grey hat that has become my daily hat and it is cheaper in price but the felt holds up very well.
 

The Lost Cowboy

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Am I seeing this correctly - is there a cloth cover over the leather sweatband on this Mallory? It's a fascinating idea but I've never seen it anywhere before.

Or is it a cloth sweatband? It doesn't really look like one to me, but I'm wrong half the time anyway!

I also can't afford to purchase this hat to find out....

On Etsy.

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harrytemp

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Am I seeing this correctly - is there a cloth cover over the leather sweatband on this Mallory? It's a fascinating idea but I've never seen it anywhere before.

Or is it a cloth sweatband? It doesn't really look like one to me, but I'm wrong half the time anyway!

I also can't afford to purchase this hat to find out....

On Etsy.

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I’m not sure but it could be a cloth nylon and an early version of roll up or fold up hat?
 
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So I've been rotating hats because of different brims or color. I want to mix and match but lately it is becoming boring. So there is this hat I own that can be dry shaped easily. I try different styles creases when I'm bored with one. I know it sounds stupid but I get my joy wearing different styles than different color and brim.

I am going off the Stetson advertising with the Playboy hat and the various styles on the ad.
1940 Vintage ad for The Stetson Playboy hat`retro fashion Price     (050618) - Picture 1 of 1


Do any of you guys steam and crease your hats and call it a day? Or do you constantly change?

Not sure if constantly changing the crease will hurt the hat but I'm doing this on a grey hat that has become my daily hat and it is cheaper in price but the felt holds up very well.
It all depends on the felt. Vintage hats of good quality will often take a dry crease with ease. I love how men would wear their hats back in the day. Many of them looked plunked on the head with the crease ending up how it ended up with no great fussing involved. Modern felts tend to be more stiff ..much less malleable and not creasable without steam. When using steam the crease is more likely to take a set and eventually a shadow of the crease remains even when steamed back to open crown.

Certain felts like the FEPSA 95gram beaver can by dry creased every time it is worn and punched back to open crown at the end of the day. 115gr Ukraine beaver is another but those dress weight felts in the 150 to 160gr weight are more likely to need steam to crease. I own just a few modern mass produced hats such as Stetson and the lower end ones the crease is machine pressed and nigh impossible to remove. I have a few more expensive modern Stetsons that were purchased as open crown.....they can take a dry crease with a bit of work.
 

harrytemp

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How liquidable are hats?

The reason I ask because I may be heading down this path of having what I call a collection. I started off with old cheap, new to like new hats from the 60’s that I no longer like. They are going to Goodwill or tossed in the trash because I don’t think collectors will show interest and the general public won’t care.

I am now looking to grab some vintage Borsalinos and Stetsons. I will of course wear some of them but let’s say I want to get rid of a hat to fund another then how easy would it be?

I have a collection of pens, lighters and watches so I was wondering if the world of hats parallel the former.
 
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How liquidable are hats?

The reason I ask because I may be heading down this path of having what I call a collection. I started off with old cheap, new to like new hats from the 60’s that I no longer like. They are going to Goodwill or tossed in the trash because I don’t think collectors will show interest and the general public won’t care.

I am now looking to grab some vintage Borsalinos and Stetsons. I will of course wear some of them but let’s say I want to get rid of a hat to fund another then how easy would it be?

I have a collection of pens, lighters and watches so I was wondering if the world of hats parallel the former.
The answer as in most things is: it depends. Size, condition, age, desirability, asking price all play a part in determining a hats liquidity.

Ebay is still the best method of selling but their fees have risen a great deal over the years. Then factor in the shipping to get it to you and then the shipping to send to the buyer...they are all sunk costs and generally not recoverable.

Collecting hats, I suppose like most things, is a hard way to turn a profit. Did you buy the hat at a good or fair price or did you overpay? These factors have to be included.

So the liquidity question is answered by how much do you want for the hat? If you are expecting a return on your initial outlay then you may have to wait a long time for it to sell. If you are looking at getting 50% of your initial outlay after wearing the hat a few times then I would say you should be able to sell it more quickly. In selling it lower than your purchase price accept the loss knowing you received the enjoyment of wearing it and consider the money spent the cost of having a hobby.
 

AbbaDatDeHat

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How liquidable are hats?

The reason I ask because I may be heading down this path of having what I call a collection. I started off with old cheap, new to like new hats from the 60’s that I no longer like. They are going to Goodwill or tossed in the trash because I don’t think collectors will show interest and the general public won’t care.

I am now looking to grab some vintage Borsalinos and Stetsons. I will of course wear some of them but let’s say I want to get rid of a hat to fund another then how easy would it be?

I have a collection of pens, lighters and watches so I was wondering if the world of hats parallel the former.
The classifieds here are a free service to loungers.
 

gilligan

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Recently I purchased an early 1940's Resistol fedora size 7.5 with the diamond shaped letter O. The hat is pristine with the original box. My question is what is the value of these. I paid 100.00 and feel that was a bargain. Any help would be appreciated.
 
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Recently I purchased an early 1940's Resistol fedora size 7.5 with the diamond shaped letter O. The hat is pristine with the original box. My question is what is the value of these. I paid 100.00 and feel that was a bargain. Any help would be appreciated.
I believe you got quite a bargain especially in that size. @deadlyhandsome and @BobHufford might weigh in

be sure to post it in Post New Hats when you get some photos.
 

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