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[Rmccamey]

Very true, Rick, and I agree completely. However, the context of your post is unique, one of a kind buildings of historical significance. While there are a few loungers who own, or ever will own, unique, one of a kind, historical, museum quality hats (and I thank them every one!), most of us do not. As has been said before, we are all along a "preservation" scale somewhere. Where am I on the scale; I love the vintage felt but personally, I don't want a museum quality hat that I have to keep under glass and only wear once a year to the 4th of July parade. I want a hat that I can wear day in and day out.

It would seem that the preservation or alteration of anything anyone considers to be of historical value will always be "the subject of concern, consternation, considerable disagreement and confusion."

 

[Rmccamey]

Yep, thanks gents. Like I said a few posts back, all this is an academic debate. You own your hats and you are going to do to your hats what you want to do to them. I own my hats and I'm going to do to them what i want to do to them. And it's all OK.

It would seem that the preservation or alteration of anything anyone considers to be of historical value will always be "the subject of concern, consternation, considerable disagreement and confusion."

I couldn't agree with you more Brent. For me, one of the secrets to a stress free life has been to get too damn old and too damn tired to summon enough energy to care too much about what other people are doing.

I'm a big believer in individuality. Everything from the hat you wear to the gun you own speaks directly to who you are as a person. I've not met 2 people that are exactly alike, and thus their things shouldn't be exactly the same.

That's why it boggles my mind when people get heated over rules that try to force people to be exactly the same.

 

[Hurricane Jack]

Careful not to awaken my radical tendencies there Jack. Taxpayer funding should always equal taxpayer access.

Yep, I guess it's just like the the Don Henley song; "Rebels been rebels since I don't know when."

All the talk about newbies joining the FL & change always reminds me of the woman who doesn't quite like everything about her man but figures she can change those things she doesn't.

 

[Hurricane Jack]

WOW! In my younger days I loved cars like that. Now the thought of even wedging myself into one hurts. LOL But it is a beautiful car. Do you still have it?

Sold it in 2009 when the business economy was so bad & money for the small businessman was hard to come by due to bank failures & the mortgage crisis. I've had others also.

 

[AbbaDatDeHat]

Sold it in 2009 when the business economy was so bad & money for the small businessman was hard to come by due to bank failures & the mortgage crisis. I've had others also.

Jack:
I totally get your passion. Anybody that had a 63 split window as beautiful as your’s probably had some serious debate with those who took the split out of their’s.
B

 

[Hat and Rehat]

Probably the reason why most of us learn to avoid topics like politics etc. Personally, I like the free-thinking disruptive influences; even if I don’t agree with them I appreciate the differences. I for one don’t want to live in a homogeneous society, and that includes one where everyone agrees with me.


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I learned it very late. For years I embraced contention. I studied logic and could expose a fallacy with the best of them. And I liked it. I could take apart an opponents argument, or outright destroy it when the gloves came off, as they often did.
What started off with the high sounding ideal of using logic to bring both of us to the most plausible understanding of facts, too often denigrated into demonstrating unequivocaly that you're a clueless fool lacking in reason. It didn't make me a lot of friends.
It did lose me a few.
My sister's death last month particularly brought it home to me. We had been estranged since early last Dec. after I made sure she knew I was rignt and she was wrong on a matter.
I'd broken the ice toward reconciliation with a messenger wave or two, which she returned. I planned to talk to my brother in law about he and I roasting leg of lamb on the BBQ for Mother's Day, a tradition we had years ago, when the kids were young.
She slipped into a coma the Thursday before Mother's Day, then was declared brain dead the day I thought we would be eating lamb, hugging, and putting the disagreement behind us.
Being right is a good thing, but it isn't the only thing.

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[Hurricane Jack]

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Jack:
I totally get your passion. Anybody that had a 63 split window as beautiful as your’s probably had some serious debate with those who took the split out of their’s.
B

Thanks Bowen. Never heard of anyone who actually did that just to make theirs appear like a new one in 1964.

I still enjoy a smirk when I recall Moon's comment about too many butterfly kisses being blown back & forth on the WHAYWT thread, which I happen to agree with him on. So I will most definitely refrain from posting or commenting on it. And I'll refrain from commenting or answering questions unless they are concerning a hat of my own.

 

[Rmccamey]

Back to Q&A for a moment. Any tips or tricks for rebuilding a hat box. I have one of the Stetson oval hat boxes but all the "tape" has rotted so I'm left with just a bunch of cardboard pieces.

 

[humanshoes]

Back to Q&A for a moment. Any tips or tricks for rebuilding a hat box. I have one of the Stetson oval hat boxes but all the "tape" has rotted so I'm left with just a bunch of cardboard pieces.

https://www.packagingtapedepot.com/...s/ips_catalog/default/300x300/Paper_Tape_.jpg

 

[AbbaDatDeHat]

https://www.packagingtapedepot.com/...s/ips_catalog/default/300x300/Paper_Tape_.jpg

Good to know.
Also, what about the liner tape you see used in vintage hats? Is it a special tape?
Is it still available?
B

 

[humanshoes]

Good to know.
Also, what about the liner tape you see used in vintage hats? Is it a special tape?
Is it still available?
B

I don't know about that tape B.

 

[Hat and Rehat]

Good to know.
Also, what about the liner tape you see used in vintage hats? Is it a special tape?
Is it still available?
B

It reminds me of medical tape.

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[Bill Hughes]

Back to Q&A for a moment. Any tips or tricks for rebuilding a hat box. I have one of the Stetson oval hat boxes but all the "tape" has rotted so I'm left with just a bunch of cardboard pieces.

I use hot glue.

 

[deadlyhandsome]

I use hot glue.

That’s what I use too. Even my brand new custom hat boxes arrive falling apart. I’m not sure I want to pay more for them, but I sure do wish hat boxes were better quality.


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[AbbaDatDeHat]

It reminds me of medical tape.

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Medical tapes breakdown and get greasy sticky. Then you have a mess!
B

 

[humanshoes]

Very true, Rick, and I agree completely. However, the context of your post is unique, one of a kind buildings of historical significance. While there are a few loungers who own, or ever will own, unique, one of a kind, historical, museum quality hats (and I thank them every one!), most of us do not. As has been said before, we are all along a "preservation" scale somewhere. Where am I on the scale; I love the vintage felt but personally, I don't want a museum quality hat that I have to keep under glass and only wear once a year to the 4th of July parade. I want a hat that I can wear day in and day out.

I'm with you Randy. All the hats in my modest collection fit me. I bought them to wear. That's what I do.

 

[JessieJames]

Are hats with an underwelt brim (I think it's called that, where the edge is folded under itself and sewn) mainly done on cheaper wool hats to keep the structure and make it more rigid?

From what I've seen and gathered here, hat brims are either ribbon treated, raw edge or rarely overwelt and sometimes pencil curled but that's still a raw edge.

Just the underwelt for some reason seems to be done on cheaper hats mainly. I'm curious if there is anything to this observation

 

[deadlyhandsome]

Are hats with an underwelt brim (I think it's called that, where the edge is folded under itself and sewn) mainly done on cheaper wool hats to keep the structure and make it more rigid?

From what I've seen and gathered here, hat brims are either ribbon treated, raw edge or rarely overwelt and sometimes pencil curled but that's still a raw edge.

Just the underwelt for some reason seems to be done on cheaper hats mainly. I'm curious if there is anything to this observation

While you do often see underwelts on cheaper hats, including lots of wool hats, it is also a treatment that appears on some most excellent hats. It’s not diagnostic of a hats quality. I have underwelt brims on some expensive custom hats too. The felted edge is my favorite, but aside from BSHW it’s not an edge treatment that you can get on modern hats.


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[Hat and Rehat]

Medical tapes breakdown and get greasy sticky. Then you have a mess!
B

It does get that way on your skin!

If being authentic isn't the most critical thing, there is a clear tape that is just a gummy strip, with no paper or fabric. I found it used on a few cheap hats, and it's SO much better than hot glue. It can be removed completely from fabric, straw or felt by just rubbing back and forth until it balls up.
I searched the internet but didn't find the strips I saw on hats.
What I did find are called balloon dots. Apparently clowns that make balloon animals use them. I figured they'd be perfect for clowns that work on hats and ordered some! A lot!
They're like the tape I've seen, but are small, round, adhesive dots. They don't cost much at all, and won't harm your hats. Amazon and others sell them. I wish they were a little bigger, but they work.
If anyone knows about this stuff in strip form, please jump in.

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[Hat and Rehat]

Are hats with an underwelt brim (I think it's called that, where the edge is folded under itself and sewn) mainly done on cheaper wool hats to keep the structure and make it more rigid?

From what I've seen and gathered here, hat brims are either ribbon treated, raw edge or rarely overwelt and sometimes pencil curled but that's still a raw edge.

Just the underwelt for some reason seems to be done on cheaper hats mainly. I'm curious if there is anything to this observation

The sewn welts you find on wool hats also very often hold a wire to give the brim support. Soft metal wire is used for a shapeable brim, and plastic wire or (occasionally) stainless steel for brims meant to keep the shape they were made with.

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