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Hat and Rehat

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When cutting a sweat to length (say, 58 cm like me), you finish off the ends by cutting them back at an angle from the reed so that when joined, the sweat will "bell" and grip your head (along with following the taper of the crown). I worked up a quick and dirty diagram below (should have made the lettering white, I guess).

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Also, the Reed arrow should be pointing to the bottom, blue portion. Oops. Toldja it was Q&D.
Did you create that image, or is it from a source? If so, could you provide the source, please. I've felt there's a dearth of this kind of information, so have been relying very heavily on one book.
 

Hat and Rehat

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These look great if you have a lot of surface area to place each hat on. Any idea if hats can be stacked using these? Also, any down side to just stacking one hat on another, provided the bottom one is not flat on a surface?
Stacking hats isn't advised. Why not use hooks? If they're long enough to rest deep in the crown the hat will suffer little distortion.
 

Bill Hughes

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These look great if you have a lot of surface area to place each hat on. Any idea if hats can be stacked using these? Also, any down side to just stacking one hat on another, provided the bottom one is not flat on a surface?
You could not stack hats on top of one another if both are in stands. You could use a stand on the bottom hat then stack being careful not to alter the ribbons. That is you don't want the hat above pushing on the ribbon.
 
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Stacking hats isn't advised. Why not use hooks? If they're long enough to rest deep in the crown the hat will suffer little distortion.
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Stacking hats works just fine, with the precaution that Bill mentions above. A foam ring separator will protect the ribbon of the hat below. A conforming plastic film can help protect the felt finish and the ribbon. If you have a lot of hats and don't have a hat store, stacking will likely become necessary.

I should mention that though I stack most of my hats, my Frank Stack hat resides in a box.
 

Hat and Rehat

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Stacking hats works just fine, with the precaution that Bill mentions above. A foam ring separator will protect the ribbon of the hat below. A conforming plastic film can help protect the felt finish and the ribbon. If you have a lot of hats and don't have a hat store, stacking will likely become necessary.

I should mention that though I stack most of my hats, my Frank Stack hat resides in a box.
I know retailers stack hats, using the rings and films. I thought it was a trade off they couldn't avoid though, due to inventory demands.

I do have blue eyes.

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Atterbury Dodd

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So, after some thought, I've decided I want to get a Stetson Rancher. It's pretty classic, is fairly light felt (I detest overly thick stiff felt even on a western hat). The price is also not terrible, but so far the cheapest I can find one is about $180 something. So where is the best place to find one? Is there a lower price out there? Would like to bag a new one for $150-ish if I can. I also need the 3 1/2 brim option, which seems harder to find. Based on passed experience I don't think a 4" would look good on me.
 

Rmccamey

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If you are looking for a modern version, you might check with the HatCo outlet in Garland, TX. You will have to call or visit in person as they do not have online sales.
 

Atterbury Dodd

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I'm going with the modern version, although I will make several careful mods. I won't be able to visit in person, but if they ship can certainly call and inquire. Thanks for the tip!
 

jonesy86

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Stacking hats works just fine, with the precaution that Bill mentions above. A foam ring separator will protect the ribbon of the hat below. A conforming plastic film can help protect the felt finish and the ribbon. If you have a lot of hats and don't have a hat store, stacking will likely become necessary.

I should mention that though I stack most of my hats, my Frank Stack hat resides in a box.
Thanks for the tips. Any suggestions on what kind of foam, thickness, width, length, where to buy?
Thanks again!
 
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Stacking hats isn't advised. Why not use hooks? If they're long enough to rest deep in the crown the hat will suffer little distortion.
A long-ish hook (3.75" to 4") with a tennis ball slipped over the end for each hat you want to hang; the tennis ball keeps the hook from distorting the felt. At least a few members here use this technique with great success.
 
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So, after some thought, I've decided I want to get a Stetson Rancher. It's pretty classic, is fairly light felt (I detest overly thick stiff felt even on a western hat). The price is also not terrible, but so far the cheapest I can find one is about $180 something. So where is the best place to find one? Is there a lower price out there? Would like to bag a new one for $150-ish if I can. I also need the 3 1/2 brim option, which seems harder to find. Based on passed experience I don't think a 4" would look good on me.

The outlets are the first place to look for a great deal, but you might end up with a second quality hat with a flaw.

If you’re looking for a good retail shop, you could do a lot worse than One 2 Mini Ranch.

http://www.one2miniranch.com/search.php?search_query=Rancher


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Atterbury Dodd

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The outlets are the first place to look for a great deal, but you might end up with a second quality hat with a flaw.

If you’re looking for a good retail shop, you could do a lot worse than One 2 Mini Ranch.

http://www.one2miniranch.com/search.php?search_query=Rancher


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Slight flaws would actually be perfectly fine if the price is right. I'm going to modify the crease and use it as a all around outdoors hat. probably even wear it to work some.
 

Rmccamey

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I don't know about the Rancher but modern OR's are pressed and the factory crease is very difficult to change. You probably have more experience than I, but it is not something I would or could do myself. Vintage hats are one thing, but the modern versions are something else.

Slight flaws would actually be perfectly fine if the price is right. I'm going to modify the crease and use it as a all around outdoors hat. probably even wear it to work some.
 
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I don't know about the Rancher but modern OR's are pressed and the factory crease is very difficult to change. You probably have more experience than I, but it is not something I would or could do myself. Vintage hats are one thing, but the modern versions are something else.

Yep, the Rancher is the same 6X stiff felt as the OR. It’s possible to re-crease the hat, but it will remain a stiff, harsh, modern 6X. Water, steam, and my heated block allow me to remove all remnants of the factory pressed in crease, but I can’t change the nature of the felt.


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