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[Zoro]

Different kind of question: Any leather and/or denim shops to visit in Italy? I go every year, this year I'll go to Milan and Naples but I plan on (re)visiting Rome, Firenze, Torino and virtually anywhere else there. It'll be good to shop around in between eating like a pig and seeing monuments. For now I've only spotted the ones listed here - https://shangrilaheritage.it/retailers/ as well as a vintage shop in Milan that as I queried here I found comments about them having very few quality items and everything way overpriced.

Thanks!

 

[Canuck Panda]

Thanks! I don't (want to) consider cracks, grain or creasing as patina, but I'll share if I see any pictures. I've seen people both here on the Classifieds as well on Ebay announcing jackets "with amazing patina" that to me simply looked old, I just didn't share them in the moment and just asked as that the question went through my mind when I saw an actual patina (or what I did consider it so).

Even querying now I've struggled to find one that's lightened, all other results were darkened. I did find this one:

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To me it just looks old and beaten. But then again, I might just be wrong and simply found something I don't like.

For me, patina is when the surface of the leather darkens. And fade is when the surface lightens up. Some leathers can appear to do both. It takes both friction and oxidation, but best to let time do its thing, very rarely I see man made patina/fade that looks good, most just looks man made and not in a good way.