Alexander Leathers Simmons and Aero Aeromarine Discussion

[Edward]

In the 60's you bought an old beat up guitar because that's all you could afford, until you saved up enough money to get a nice, new shiney one. Now you pay extra to make it look beat up! To each their own i guess, but I prefer nice and new!!

I'm the same... I even prefer a nice modern polyurethane finish over nitro for the durability!

 

[nick123]

Those 60s gems are now pretty collectible!

 

[handymike]

I like that Original Simmons!

 

[pauleway]

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, Schitz. Maybe you are looking at a smartphone, rather than a decent monitor - I don't know. But when you get the chance, have a proper look:

Here are the collars. The Aero on the right ,has a shawl collar (like the original). The AlexCo has a Peter Pan collar - something I have rarely seen on a leather jacket, or many men's jackets at all, come to that.

And here are the bottoms of the jackets. The Aero, like the original, has a hem panel which gets deeper towards the middle, to accomodate the two buttons. The AlexCo has neither the deepening panel NOR the two buttons....

BTW, my idea of a "mall jacket" is something cheap, for folks who aren't too bothered about the details........So there you go

Don't know if anyone noticed, but Alexander Leathers has improved their design on the Simmons Bilt collar. Looks more like the "shawl" collar style instead of the so called "Peter Pan" collar! Saw a brown one on their web site.

 

[handymike]

And 2 buttons at the bottom.....
(Thanks to the Major?)
;-)

 

[Rudie]

Interesting. It's a completely different jacket now.

 

[handymike]

"The Tribe Has Spoken"
Aren't we a great resource?????

 

[Highwaymanman]

You can bet that they follow these discussions quite closely!

 

[Rudie]

You can bet that they follow these discussions quite closely!

Obviously.

 

[Fanch]

Interesting. It's a completely different jacket now.

Interesting to compare the fine detail between the AL jacket and the one made by Diamond Dave in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

 

[ButteMT61]

Was just cutting and pasting links to do this too Fanch!
Yeah, amazing isn't it? I'm going D-squared.

 

[wdw]

Good point Fanch. Surely DD's buttonholes, very nice as they are, are overly-complicated from a production point of view. How much would they add to time and cost? Is he charging Rolls Royce prices?

There are of course other subtle differences, but others can comment on those.

 

[nick123]

This style seems to be big at the moment, and all of the jackets are gorgeous, but someone needs to draw the line and do something different.

 

[Fanch]

Good point Fanch. Surely DD's buttonholes, very nice as they are, are overly-complicated from a production point of view. How much would they add to time and cost? Is he charging Rolls Royce prices?

There are of course other subtle differences, but others can comment on those.

I feel certain that the buttonholes done on DD's Hyklas jacket are very labor intensive, which would need to be reflected in his pricing. It is my understanding that DD also makes vintage military hats for Eastman.

 

[Rudie]

This style seems to be big at the moment, and all of the jackets are gorgeous, but someone needs to draw the line and do something different.

This style doesn't appeal to me at all. But if Aero would ever do this one again I'd be all over it:

 

[HoosierDaddy]

This style seems to be big at the moment, and all of the jackets are gorgeous, but someone needs to draw the line and do something different.

I agree!
One of these companies needs to go with slash(handwarmer) pockets just to make their's different than the others...instead of all the same. Change something up..jeeze.
HD

 

[HoosierDaddy]

I agree Rudie! That's a great style with some nice unique features. Beautiful jacket..IMO!!
HD

 

[nick123]

I guess the best analogy is several bands covering the same song. There will still be subtle differences in the art and that is to be celebrated. But someone needs to shake it up a bit!

 

[Rudie]

I agree Rudie! That's a great style with some nice unique features. Beautiful jacket..IMO!!
HD

Holly said this jacket was so difficult to make that only one of their machinists was able to do it. It's probably going to take a while until this jacket is resurrected ...

 

[Sloan1874]

Fair play to them for refining the pattern, but you'd think AL would be better waiting until they master a pattern, rather than rushing out an approximation of it and taking stick for it here. This is isn't the first time they've done this, the travesty of a Belstaff with colossal pockets didn't last long on the website either before it was replaced.
I wonder how long it'll take them to fix this one...