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    Aero Leathers - International pricing?

    That is 100% false. Non-EU sales are not chargeable with VAT irrespective of how they are placed or delivered.
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    Aero Leathers - International pricing?

    Aero at least includes the 20% "VAT" charge even on non-EU sales as discussed in the below thread. I can't speak to other vendors; it's best to contact them directly. http://www.thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?65401-FYI-Eastman-and-Aero-including-undisclosed-upcharge-on-overseas-sales
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    Famous People in Flight Jackets

    It's clear that multiple jacket makers worked on the film. Lots of jackets were needed for all of the characters and extras, and as a one man shop at the time Good Wear couldn't provide them all (especially shearlings and cloth jackets -- the B-10s, for instance, are either Eastmans or from...
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    Sub $500 A2 jackets suggestions?

    "Long arms" is relative. I take a dress shirt with 35" sleeves. According to G&B's size chart, their 40L has 34" sleeves (33" for a 40 + 1" for a tall size), leaving me an inch short. (Even their 42L is only 1/2" longer in the sleeve. I'm 6'1", 185 lbs. and would be swimming in a G&B size...
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    Sub $500 A2 jackets suggestions?

    Stay away from G&B if you're tall and slender, especially if you have long arms. Their jackets are made short and wide, even in tall sizes. I'm 6'1" and wear an off-the-rack 40L, and both of the 40L G&B jackets I've had were too short in the arms by an inch and too broad in the body and...
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    two jackets for sale on eBay

    First, Japanese Levi's repro of 1950s era type II selvage denim jacket, size 40. http://www.ebay.com/itm/LVC-Levis-Japan-Selvedge-Selvage-Denim-Jacket-Type-II-507XX-40-42-Big-E-/221133014089? Next, Aero Leather Clothing Co. cafe racer in midweight black horsehide, size 40 long...
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    Aero price increase! Again? (Sept,2012)

    Not everyone would agree with this assessment.
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    FYI: Eastman and Aero including undisclosed upcharge on overseas sales

    Does Aero discount VAT on non-jacket orders for products they don't make themselves (denim, etc.)? Does Aero discount VAT on off-the-rack orders (preexisting jackets or standard OTR sizes with no mods)? Likewise, does ELC discount VAT on its Buzz Rickson sales? I suspect not, but if there is...
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    FYI: Eastman and Aero including undisclosed upcharge on overseas sales

    If we accept this premise, then overseas buyers are subsidizing the UK market, which I find not only unfair but utterly bizarre, since the Aero web site appears directed primarily at the domestic market (priced in pounds, e.g.). Two, since VAT is payable not only on UK transactions but on...
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    FYI: Eastman and Aero including undisclosed upcharge on overseas sales

    Please, just stop. This quote shows two things: one, you don't know what you're talking about ("Federal sales tax"... hoo, boy, that's a good one), and two, you are a hypocrite. You "had US companines [sic] remove the State sales tax," but then try to justify UK companies charging the full...
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    FYI: Eastman and Aero including undisclosed upcharge on overseas sales

    What absolute twaddle. I'll just crib from my own post at VLJ. Eastman and Aero charge x for a jacket. The tax man requires that y also be charged based on the value of x, but only for EU sales. So in the EU, x + y = total price. For non-EU sales, the tax man doesn't require that y be...
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    FYI: Eastman and Aero including undisclosed upcharge on overseas sales

    I only find the practices untoward because I know about them. Now more people know about them, too, and Aero's justification for them. Having a better-informed customer base is not only compatible with, but is essential for, a functioning free market and the economically efficient allocation...
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    FYI: Eastman and Aero including undisclosed upcharge on overseas sales

    A "free" market is only free insofar as the buyers and sellers have adequate information to make an informed decision. This is why we have fair business practices laws, securities laws, civil fraud liability, etc. If Aero and ELC disclosed their VAT policies on their web sites then there...
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    FYI: Eastman and Aero including undisclosed upcharge on overseas sales

    Note also that as Griff's story demonstrates, there is invariably tax due in the country in which the jacket is received. In California we can get hit with US customs fees, and technically we are also supposed to pay tax on items we buy outside of California. Though as a practical matter this...
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    FYI: Eastman and Aero including undisclosed upcharge on overseas sales

    While I appreciate this response, it is disingenuous to say that you do not charge for all of the things you listed (alterations, returns, larger sizes) when in fact you do charge an additional 20% for them. You also levy this charge irrespective of the actual nature of the order. That is to...
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    FYI: Eastman and Aero including undisclosed upcharge on overseas sales

    I will save Aero and ELC the trouble. All they have to do is divide the advertised price by 1.2 for each foreign sale. The result is the VAT-free price. Keep a copy of the invoice and the shipping/customs papers in case of an audit and presto! VAT-free foreign sales. ELC and Aero make the...
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    FYI: Eastman and Aero including undisclosed upcharge on overseas sales

    And you were able to object in the first scenario because you could see it happening in the transaction, yes? (Was it corrected or no?) And you could tell with the second that it was happening because the shipping cost was disclosed, yes? (In fact, it was disclosed -- "boldfacedly".)...
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    FYI: Eastman and Aero including undisclosed upcharge on overseas sales

    C'mon. "Extra"? There is no "extra." There is the retail price, and there is tax. If you order something from California, you will pay the retail price, without tax. I will pay the retail price, with tax. We both pay the same retail price and I, as a California resident, have to kick in to...
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    FYI: Eastman and Aero including undisclosed upcharge on overseas sales

    I'm sure that's the gloss ELC and Aero would put on it. But we're not talking 5% on 9.99 here -- we're talking about hundreds of pounds in undisclosed profit. That's hardly "a little more of their margin." And if ELC and Aero can't be profitable in the EU because of the VAT then they and...

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