4X beaver question based on the mid 90’s

[Qualitygoodsdepot]

When was the date they used X’s as 10% fur? because I have a 4x beaver hat from the mid 90’s that feels pretty dense and thick so I suspect this might be 40% beaver, therefore I hypothesize that the 90’s was the date that the X’s were used as 10% fur for each X but I might be deceived because if this hat was made with todays X factors it might only have traces amount of beaver as today X’s are a marketing scheme. If someone knows this information that would be great… View attachment 655140 View attachment 655148 View attachment 655161 View attachment 655149

 

[Rmccamey]

We ask that you spend some time reading the various threads to find some of your answers. For this particular question you will find that X is more about model names and marketing and has little, if any relationship to the percentage of beaver felt in a hat. There are 1000X hats, so what would that be? There are also X designations on straw hats where there is no felt content! There are also pure beaver vintage hats that have no X designations at all.

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[Trouser Bark]

As far as I understand it the correct answer is never.

Ambiguous (or deceptive, misleading, etc) marketing has been around forever and whenever a manufacturer uses a term that they refuse to define you can bet that substituting the word ‘horsesh*t for that “x” will be pretty close to accurate.

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The “x” is meant to stir the hope of something better without the promise of anything.

 

[jlee562]

Curious as to where you picked up that an 'X' at any point meant 10% beaver?

Stetson, for example, has never disclosed their formulation, and 100% beaver has been presented as both 5x and 7x at different points.

Also just doesn't really pass the smell test for a 90's hat to be 40% beaver. This was not a great era for factory hats generally.

 

[AbbaDatDeHat]

Op…nice theory but equating the “feel” of a 90’s 4X Stetson to be 40% beaver is beyond a stretch.
Feeling the X’s is about as subjective as has been presented here on the lounge for so many reasons.
Keep “feeling” and this you will see (or feel).
Not trying to be rude…just truthful.
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[Qualitygoodsdepot]

Curious as to where you picked up that an 'X' at any point meant 10% beaver?

Stetson, for example, has never disclosed their formulation, and 100% beaver has been presented as both 5x and 7x at different points.

Also just doesn't really pass the smell test for a 90's hat to be 40% beaver. This was not a great era for factory hats generally.

Curious as to where you picked up that an 'X' at any point meant 10% beaver?

Stetson, for example, has never disclosed their formulation, and 100% beaver has been presented as both 5x and 7x at different points.

Also just doesn't really pass the smell test for a 90's hat to be 40% beaver. This was not a great era for factory hats generally.

Was it Stetson that presented 5x and 7x as 100% beaver at different points?

Curious as to where you picked up that an 'X' at any point meant 10% beaver?

Stetson, for example, has never disclosed their formulation, and 100% beaver has been presented as both 5x and 7x at different points.

Also just doesn't really pass the smell test for a 90's hat to be 40% beaver. This was not a great era for factory hats generally.

Was it Stetson who presented 100% beaver to be a 5x and 7x? Because through my understanding you said it has never been disclosed

 

[Trouser Bark]

I’m still learning about hats so am far from an expert however, in my short exposure time I have noticed that Stetson tosses that X designation around like it has fluid meaning and only the Illuminati understand. An interesting internal reference they’ve made before is that they refer to some of their hats as “pure beaver” but no # of X’s on the hat… Likely because it might offer a buyer an objective reference.