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  1. Guppy

    Legendary USA Black Stallion is Back

    The bigger issue will be when people do go to look at a used Black Stallion in the future, there's going to be questions as to which version it is, the Schott or the EDSIM. And that will cause confusion that will make them harder to sell to buyers who know what they're looking for enough to be...
  2. Guppy

    Legendary USA Black Stallion is Back

    I wouldn't have had a problem with it if they were still made by Schott, to identical spec. Otherwise, yeah I tend to agree. They need to display and represent the product accurately.
  3. Guppy

    Legendary USA Black Stallion is Back

    It sounds like they lost a lot of business in a couple days and now they're in panic mode. The change in their cancelation policy doesn't help their image any.
  4. Guppy

    Legendary USA Black Stallion is Back

    Thank you, and I agree. I won't and can't say that Legendary had any kind of nefarious intent with the way they went about this, so I do feel like calling their business practice "shady" isn't quite right, but I know what you're getting at. I would call it "borderline at best". It's easy for...
  5. Guppy

    Legendary USA Black Stallion is Back

    I agree, that would have been the better way to go. If they were thinking it worked like the OEM car parts contractor analogy I mentioned above, well I guess by now that they have some evidence that it doesn't work that way with leather jackets.
  7. Guppy

    Legendary USA Black Stallion is Back

    Update (replying to my own post, past the 10k character limit): I posted this BEFORE catching up with the thread. So we think it's EDSIM that's making this batch? I've never heard of them before, and I have no idea what they are like. Their website looks they are a generalist fashion leather...
  8. Guppy

    Legendary USA Black Stallion is Back

    I just chatted with Ren at Legendary USA again. He confirmed a few things for me: 1. Schott NYC is NOT the maker of this run of the Black Stallion. 2. They are unable to disclose the maker, but did say that it is made in the USA. 3. Despite what it says above in Aloysius's screen capture...
  9. Guppy

    Legendary USA Black Stallion is Back

    Hillside USA is in Florida, if I remember correctly.
  10. Guppy

    Legendary USA Black Stallion is Back

    It's hard enough to sort through the changing (miss)information coming from the official sources on this... Just trying to keep things straight.
  11. Guppy

    Legendary USA Black Stallion is Back

    The model number of the Black Stallion is 696H. Scott's 689H is a different pattern, center zip, similar to the Vanson Enfield. Schott has used both H and HH suffixes to denote horsehide leather.
  13. Guppy

    Quick your house is on fire! Which 1 jacket or coat do you grab?

    My firefighter jacket and the extinguisher...
  14. Guppy

    Legendary USA Black Stallion is Back

    Just to throw in on the sizing debate, the new limited edition Black Stallion sizing chart suggests I would want to go with a 42, and their 44 would be too big. The one I have is a 44, and I think it fits me fine. Wouldn't want to guess whether they changed the sizing for this new batch, but...
  15. Guppy

    Mystery Moto Help - Aero?

    I'm not very familiar with them at all, but Lewis Leathers makes a style called the Lightning in a few variants which this reminds me of a lot. I'm not sure what other makers do their MC jackets in this style with the pocket configuration shown, but I believe that there are a few European...
  16. Guppy

    Legendary USA Black Stallion is Back

    I'll weigh mine too, and if I can find my thickness gauge I'll measure it as well, but I'd expect these new ones to come in a bit heavier. I'd be surprised if what I have is 3.5oz/1.4mm. Update: With the belt and removable collar on, mine weighs in at 6.5 lbs exactly. I didn't weight it...
  17. Guppy

    Legendary USA Black Stallion is Back

    No, it's not puffy, just a little insulation. It's factored into the tagged size already.
  19. Guppy

    eBay global shipping program?

    Heads up, everyone. I just got an email from ebay notifying me that they had automatically enrolled me in their "new" International Shipping Program. Details: https://www.ebay.com/sellercenter/shipping/ebay-international-shipping I haven't read this yet; no idea how it's different from the...
  20. Guppy

    Finds and Deals - Leather Jacket Edition

    Schott 641, size 42, $225 BIN, nice shape, should sell quick https://www.ebay.com/itm/204337251831
  21. Guppy

    Legendary USA Black Stallion is Back

    Some interesting stuff... When I search Legendary USA's website for "black stallion" I get two results: The $1300 model, sold out, looks like it has a plaid lining, different from the black diamond quilt lining (nylon/polyester?) in the $918 version. $918 is super reasonable for a HH...
  22. Guppy

    For sale - 1963 Fur Lined Langlitz Columbia - 38

    I would love to try it on. The measurements look close but I'm not sure how the shearling lining affects that. Probably a tad small for me too.
  23. Guppy

    Legendary USA Black Stallion is Back

    Well now doesn't that just figure. About 10 years ago was the last time this was made I recall them being on clearance at $250 at the end, marked down from $550, and I could have gotten one then but at the time my opinion of Schott horsehide was that it was too thin and too plastic KY looking...

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