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    Liberation Now! The BK Liberty HH Thread

    Come on mate, you also own a BK jacket in Liberty, what is your thought?
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    Bill Kelso dark seal Liberty horse

    I can see the photo now, and I very much hope my jacket will look like this one in few years. For the black leather, Andy told me this is from their last batch, and they received the new batch last week. According to Andy, the new batch is same as the old batch I have.
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    Monitor's Aero FQHH Cafe Racer

    Am I the only think the chest of this jacket looks too wide but the waist is too narrow? But this may not be true, the best time to judge the jacket is after you put it on. So fit pics please.
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    Bill Kelso Westfall in Black Liberty HH

    Also, can we go back to the jacket itself rather than talk about what BK said about their product? As we all know, the sleeve of this jacket and many other jackets BK made is too wide, if they insist this is the way they want to make it, just tell them to narrow the sleeve down when you order...
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    Bill Kelso dark seal Liberty horse

    The black one is with HWT, but the russet is not. Cant see the pic you shared.
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    Bill Kelso dark seal Liberty horse

    Lets forget what BK said about their leather, and let the picture talk. These are two jackets I own from BK, one in Russet Liberty, one in black Liberty. I took the picture of Russet 2-3 weeks after I received, and the 2 days after for black one. I don't think they look like vinyl or plastic...
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    Bill Kelso Westfall in Black Liberty HH

    I think the BK offers great customer service but bad at public relationship management or lack of sale skills.
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    Bill Kelso Westfall in Black Liberty HH

    I dont think this is the case. From what I know, they are not making jacket based on one model. BK makes Westfall based on one origina jacket, and the original Hercules based on another one. I believe Aero makes their based on the original they have.
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    Bill Kelso Westfall in Black Liberty HH

    For the record, I prefer the narrow sleeve as well. And I've emailed Andy few times regard the sleeve width etc, and he said BK made the sleeve based on the original jacket. For this jacket, as i asked for their original Hercules style sleeves, from the photo I've seen, this jacket has a narrow...
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    Bill Kelso Westfall in Black Liberty HH

    Do you still have the BK jacket? By any chance you can post some fit pictures or you Aeronaut?
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    Bill Kelso Westfall in Black Liberty HH

    True, BK makes cuff and sleeve wider than other makers. No idea why. I actually know this, but I forgot to ask them slim down the sleeve.
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    Bill Kelso Westfall in Black Liberty HH

    yes, the cuff and sleeves are wide. I can use the second button on the cuff, but it doesnt feels good when I do so because of the creases. It doesnt bother me too much at the moment, because I am wearing a thick swearer/hoody under it. So the wide sleeve is actually a good thing for now. But...
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    Bill Kelso Westfall in Black Liberty HH

    I received this jacket last week. I ordered it in black liberty HH, I've been told the black HH is lighter than the seal and russet, but when I got the jacket, I feel it is actually heavier, but the leather itself is soft and smooth. I added a inside pocket, and asked for a Hercules style cuff...
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    Lawless Denim

    Then it is a duck. Just joking. I cancelled one of my order, and I got refund in 3 days.
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    Lawless Denim

    wow, first time I heard some concrete information about their production time. My order is 1273...I think I will get my jacket by end of the year.
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    Joe McCoy half-belt leather jacket. Size 36

    damn, it is my size...err......
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    A-2 Restoration: Who to use?

    If you want it accurate, you can try Diamond Dave, but don't know if he offering this service. Alternative, Try Bill Kelso in EU, they are nearly as accurate as JC. And I know they do restoration.
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    New Bill Kelso - Custom Aeronaut In Russet Liberty Horsehide

    fit really nice.
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    ELMC Products

    The first thing u need to know is the pattern of the jacket, the Aeronaut is a standard/short length jacket, the ideal fit of this pattern is just cover the belt loop on your trousers. The California is a standard length half belt, so as shown in OP's pics, the body length is long but the sleeve...
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    ELMC Products

    Here's the measurements from ELMC for a standard size 40 California, so, 24.5 for a long 40 is possible. CALIFORNIAN SIZE 40 : ARMPIT TO ARMPIT: 53.5cm SHOULDER SEAM TO SEAM: 46.5cm SLEEVE LENGTH FROM SHOULDER SEAM TO END OF CUFF: 60cm BACK LENGTH FROM NAPE OF NECK SEAM TO BOTTOM OF...
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