While I think there probably was an increased internal cost associated with a fur felt hood destined to be a Stetson One-hundred the real increased cost might have been in the labor to finish it. I have a Resistol 3X that was an open crown with a hand felted edge. The finished fur felt is every bit as nice as a One-hundred. We know the hand felted edge was discontinued because it was labor intensive. It stands to reason they would have hand picked the felt hood that was to receive so much labor time in the final product. In the case of this Resistol the 3X hood probably got the same finishing process as would a One-hundred. A more common 3X order would not have.
When you compare the numerous Open Roads you have purchased I assume you are speaking about vintage OR’s (vOR’s) & not the modern 6X with its 4.25” crown & modern blocking? Because typical vOR’s of the era range from 2.75 to 3.0” x 5.25 to 5.75” open crown. And vintage Stratoliners (vStrat’s) vs the modern Strat dimensions of 2.5 x 4.5”? The vStrat dimensions typically run 2.5” x 4.5 to 5” open crown. ( Some very early Strats had brims up to 2.75” before 2.5” became standard). And the famous Block #52 of the vOR with its straight standup sides with no taper? Newbies typically pay little attention to blocking. The vOR & Strat are totally different in blocking. So I don’t find them indistinguishable.
According to catalogs the Stetson One-hundred (100) was available in models from an OR thru a full size Western (~3.25” brim). The most common 100 that surfaces today tends to be a 3 x 5.75 to 6” & was originally an open crown thin ribbon, available both in bound edge & raw edge brims. They are block #52’s except for the full size Westerns. From the description of the 100 in question the only dimension we have to work with is the 2” brim. Surely you don’t question the fact this 100 has been cut & resized to fit & be more fedora like? If the objective was to size down to fit it would not have been necessary to cut & bind the brim at 2”. I’ve lost track of why you think it could be an OR & by extension a Strat.
As I have said, show me a wholesale fur felt grade chart, a catalog entry or other ephemera where the 100 grade felt was offered in a fedora hat.
Just putting it out there that I'm asking for education/clarification, not trying to start an argument... Sometimes text doesn't read as well as actual conversation and wanna make sure you know that's not my intention.
I'm not questioning that the Stetson 100 in question has been cut and resized. It has, and it's rather strange to me that one would buy such an expensive hat and then give it more brim by resizing it *smaller* (usually I feel like people are trying to gain size because there's less of those larger sizes) and then trim the brim down to 2". It seems sacrilegious to me!
I'll go back to what you wrote, because that's what made me ask:
"the Stetson One-hundred was never offered as a fedora in typical fedora dimensions. It has been resized & fedoraized."
I'm trying to understand what you think defines a fedora and by extension why this particular 100 has been "fedoraized." Is it the dimensions? The crease? The block and flange profile? The ribbon treatment? Asking because maybe I've been mistaken about what constitutes one.
I've been operating under the assumption that a fedora was a type of soft dress hat, which could have a straight or tapered block profile, any variety of brim and ribbon treatments (but not the 3/6/etc ply cord or leather bands seem on westerns) and brim widths ranging from 2" to 3" (and maybe even larger?, although I feel like larger than 3" seems to have been mainly on western hats).
My understanding is the the Open Road, which is one of the common configurations a 100 was offered in (it may not have the model name in the band, but it is offered as such in Miller Stockman catalogs as you point out), is a Western inspired fedora, which is why so many people on this forum, myself included, have chosen to bash theirs in a fedora style crease (making it look an awful lot like a Stratoliner in my eyes, which is why I brought up Stratoliners which are more of a straight-up fedora).
I guess I was trying to say that in my eyes many Stetson 100s *are* fedoras since I'd classify an Open Road as a style of fedora.
And I guess I was curious to discuss it at length because I've been thinking on this subject lately... I recently posted two hats from the 30s that I would definitely say are fedoras but came with what I perceived to be a cattlemen crease and was told that it should be considered an alpine or banker crease, which was used on fedoras.
You had me going down the rabbit hole to learn more about Stetson 100s and I came across this post from a fellow lounger. So at least one Stetson 100 was offered in an unabashedly non-western fedora makeup.
https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/the-stetson-one-hundred-100.33613/post-2518842
As an addendum:
I have about 8 vintage ORs (40s and 50s) and an late 40s/early 50s Stratoliner, so yes, talking about those. I'm not at home to grab my Strat and post some side by side pics with both open crown or bashed in a teardrop with a rake and a defined pinch, but aside from the flanging on the Stratoliner brim I feel like they look pretty similar (perhaps indistinguishable was too absolute of a word, but they look very similar to my eyes).
Sorry for such a lengthy post, I nerd out on this stuff and have been doing my best to learn as much as I can from y'all!



