Vanson ID & Condition Help: Boston-era Thunderbird or custom C2?

[Rick Dalton]

Hi everyone,

I’m hoping to tap into the collective knowledge of the Lounge to help identify a vintage Vanson jacket I've been looking at, and to get your expert opinions on its condition.

At first glance, the jacket has all the hallmarks of a classic Vanson C2: the asymmetrical zip, three main zippered pockets, the snap coin pocket, and the integrated belt with a buckle at the front. It also features the older "Boston, Mass." tag, dating it to before the move to Fall River.

However, here is the detail that's throwing me off: the back panel. Unlike the standard C2, which features a distinct horizontal lower seam (the drop kidney back), this jacket has a completely clean, one-piece lower back panel below the bi-swing gussets.

Condition Concerns: While I absolutely love a heavily broken-in jacket where the lighter core shows through the top coat, I have some concerns about the extent of the wear on this one. Some of the abrasions on the seams, cuffs, and edges look quite heavy.

Additionally, there is a Harley-Davidson Willie G Skull patch on the sleeve

I strongly suspect this is a custom addition by a previous owner. I’m not a fan and would definitely want to remove it if I buy the jacket.

My main questions for the Vanson experts here:

1. The ID: Is this one-piece back a specific, known variant of the C2 (perhaps a Japanese market exclusive), or was omitting the lower back seam a common custom request during the Boston era? Could this simply be a vintage Vanson Thunderbird? The clean, one-piece lower back panel seems to point in that direction.
2. The Wear: Looking at the photos, do these heavy abrasions look like honest, natural patina that the competition weight leather can easily handle, or would you consider this excessive wear/a structural red flag?
3. The Patch: Does anyone have experience removing patches from vintage Vansons? Should I be worried about permanent scarring, large stitch holes, or a noticeable difference in leather fading underneath?

Any insights or historical context would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance.

 

[Guppy]

Hi everyone,

I’m hoping to tap into the collective knowledge of the Lounge to help identify a vintage Vanson jacket I've been looking at, and to get your expert opinions on its condition.

At first glance, the jacket has all the hallmarks of a classic Vanson C2: the asymmetrical zip, three main zippered pockets, the snap coin pocket, and the integrated belt with a buckle at the front. It also features the older "Boston, Mass." tag, dating it to before the move to Fall River.

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However, here is the detail that's throwing me off: the back panel. Unlike the standard C2, which features a distinct horizontal lower seam (the drop kidney back), this jacket has a completely clean, one-piece lower back panel below the bi-swing gussets.
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Condition Concerns: While I absolutely love a heavily broken-in jacket where the lighter core shows through the top coat, I have some concerns about the extent of the wear on this one. Some of the abrasions on the seams, cuffs, and edges look quite heavy.
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Additionally, there is a Harley-Davidson Willie G Skull patch on the sleeve
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I strongly suspect this is a custom addition by a previous owner. I’m not a fan and would definitely want to remove it if I buy the jacket.

My main questions for the Vanson experts here:

1. The ID: Is this one-piece back a specific, known variant of the C2 (perhaps a Japanese market exclusive), or was omitting the lower back seam a common custom request during the Boston era? Could this simply be a vintage Vanson Thunderbird? The clean, one-piece lower back panel seems to point in that direction.
2. The Wear: Looking at the photos, do these heavy abrasions look like honest, natural patina that the competition weight leather can easily handle, or would you consider this excessive wear/a structural red flag?
3. The Patch: Does anyone have experience removing patches from vintage Vansons? Should I be worried about permanent scarring, large stitch holes, or a noticeable difference in leather fading underneath?

Any insights or historical context would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance.

There will be stitch holes when you remove the patch. Whether that bothers you or not is up to you. It may be the patch was applied to cover up something else - - hole, tear, or something else.

There likely is a serial number stamped in the leather around the inside pocket and if the seller can tell you it, vanson can look it up and tell you what it is.

It looks great. Shame about the patch and the scuffs, but they look superficial, cosmetic blemishes, to me. That leather is tough. But could be a good buy for the right price.