Very cool find, Steve. Nice style and always a treat to see one of those woolfelt survivors."Hausmarke", Wool, Back Bow, 57 cm, possibly late 1920s early 1930s. The Crown Patch is missing because this Wool Soft Felt had a Crease Clip. It's possible the Crown Patch had a brand mark but not from the manufacture. This based on on a number of Soft and Stiff Felt Hats from with similar paper labels. I was able to recently solve one of the of these mysteries ( See https://germanaustrianhats.invisionzone.com/topic/15-berlin-gubener-hutfabrik/#findComment-5645 ) but not this one ( See https://germanaustrianhats.invision...h-no-company-mark-and-arbeits-no-paper-label/ ). I am pretty sure the hats came from one of the major Eastern factories that didn't survive WWII.
The Felt is a Charcoal Gray and is of a heavier weight. I kept the Off Center Crease caused by a now missing Crease Clip. The wider width Curled Brim has a triple stitched Over Welt with a taller Crown. The wide lighter gray Band has a Back Bow. This more Formal Style / Type of Soft Felt was popular in the time period. The overall all condition is very good. I very much like finding this old Wool Soft and Stiff Felt Hats because they were worn by the masses and saw more heavy wear.
Without Side Dents
Off Center Crease Clip Memory
I believe this is a Charcoal Gray because Black is marked a "0" Fabre / Color on similar Paper Label examples.
Open Crown with Crease Clip Memory.
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What a super find, Bob. Wonderful felt and great style. Love it!
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at least its a GOOD bonus mystery! congrats
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Stefan, Thank you!
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Guerra 1855, brand new. These guys are practically unknown in the US, but they are still making fantastic quality fur hats in Italy, just like their more famous (and younger!) siblings. This is super soft felt with a real leather sweatband. Our (American) loss that we can't find these regularly.
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Ive found extra hats in lot buys before, but never anything worth hanging onto lol
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Troy O’Shea Sashiko-oro ball cap, uses a 13.75oz indigo dyed cotton, late 1930s silhouette.
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There is a saying, "everything old is new again." This is a proper Borsalino black hat, sold in Brooklyn, presumably to a member of the Jewish community. It's dated 2000 on the white cell label and, at 3 1/2" on the brim and with a shark gill bow, this has not been "in style" for the Jewish religious wearer for many years. Even there, styles come back around and I am ready! A great hat.
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The seller correctly responded to my request to send me a photo of the size of this Cervo
I was too curious to get my hands on this Western-style hat even though it wasn't wearable.
The hat arrived, and I was able to touch the felt and the workmanship of the "Cervo Bantam - American style" firsthand.
The felt is thick and sturdy, malleable but very firm once it has taken its shape.
The color is similar to butter, and there are no other indications because the complete manufacturing label is missing.
There is only a small label that says very little. It's a shame, I would have liked to know the color of the felt, which is rarely used in Italian hatmaking.
The nominal size is 58, but it's better to consider it a 57 1/2, as it fits a bit tight.
These are the measurements: the raw-cut brim is 7 cm, the crown at its lowest point is 12.5 cm, and the hatband is 2 cm.
In good condition, it is one of the rare examples of Western style found on the Italian market, produced by one of the leading hat producers.
I was too curious to get my hands on this Western-style hat even though it wasn't wearable.
The hat arrived, and I was able to touch the felt and the workmanship of the "Cervo Bantam - American style" firsthand.
The felt is thick and sturdy, malleable but very firm once it has taken its shape.
The color is similar to butter, and there are no other indications because the complete manufacturing label is missing.
There is only a small label that says very little. It's a shame, I would have liked to know the color of the felt, which is rarely used in Italian hatmaking.
The nominal size is 58, but it's better to consider it a 57 1/2, as it fits a bit tight.
These are the measurements: the raw-cut brim is 7 cm, the crown at its lowest point is 12.5 cm, and the hatband is 2 cm.
In good condition, it is one of the rare examples of Western style found on the Italian market, produced by one of the leading hat producers.
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P. & C. Habig Wien - Berlin, Seidenzylinder / Silk Top Hat, 57 cm, possibly late 1920s. Came with a P. & C. Habig Wien Hutfabrikanten Berlin Carton and a Bernhard Feiler Berlin Velvet Polishing Pad. Very good overall condition.
Bernhard Feiler Berlin, Velvet Polishing Pad, Possibly Late 1920s.
P. & C. Habig Wien Hutfabrikanten, Berlin Friedrichstr. 82a - Hat Carton - possibly late 1920s.
Bernhard Feiler Berlin, Velvet Polishing Pad, Possibly Late 1920s.
P. & C. Habig Wien Hutfabrikanten, Berlin Friedrichstr. 82a - Hat Carton - possibly late 1920s.
What a beauty, Steve.P. & C. Habig Wien - Berlin, Seidenzylinder / Silk Top Hat, 57 cm, possibly late 1920s. Came with a P. & C. Habig Wien Hutfabrikanten Berlin Carton and a Bernhard Feiler Berlin Velvet Polishing Pad. Very good overall condition.
Bernhard Feiler Berlin, Velvet Polishing Pad, Possibly Late 1920s.
P. & C. Habig Wien Hutfabrikanten, Berlin Friedrichstr. 82a - Hat Carton - possibly late 1920s.
The box with Habigs pre-war Berlin address and the polishing pad are the icing on the cake of that wonderful Top Hat.
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Last one in for a bit, a Qualita Aquila in Nero from some time between '61 and '72, sold in Naples. It is a 3 star and a velour finish. The brim is 1 7/8", but seems even smaller, with a crown height of 5". Very, very soft finish.
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I don’t hate when I buy an unknown sized Kevin O’Farrell (thinking I’m going to flip it) and it turns out to be a perfect fit … my wife on the other hand.
The other O’Farrell from this auction arrived.
This is the one that lost its shipping label and was sent back to the house in California where Kevin O’Farrell shipped it in 1998.
https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/usps-ground-advantage-gripes.114958/page-9#post-3238234
I guess this box could be from the 2003 hat.
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Looks like it made it to you no worse the wear! Nice lid
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Now it's time to look at and examine the remade and/or remodeled hats I've recently purchased.
They're often quite easy to decipher, but some are complete enigmas. This one is the case today.
The red lining has a faded Tonak logo, as does the sweatband.
The size listed is 58, but in reality the internal measurements are those of a size 56/57 hat, depending on the fit.
The felt is very interesting, very dense and thick, and its finishing touches, which I assume were added after its creation, or were left in during the remaking.
The felt appears to be a midnight blue, and the ribbons that trim it are slightly lighter. I find the combination beautiful.
The external measurements are as follows: brim at 6.5 cm, ribbon is 2,5 cm and the lowest point of the crown is 10.5 cm.
The internal measurements are: 19x16.5 centimeters
I bought it with the clear intention of being able to wear it after some work to adjust it to my size. That's not possible, it's too small to fit, so if anyone is interested, let me know.
They're often quite easy to decipher, but some are complete enigmas. This one is the case today.
The red lining has a faded Tonak logo, as does the sweatband.
The size listed is 58, but in reality the internal measurements are those of a size 56/57 hat, depending on the fit.
The felt is very interesting, very dense and thick, and its finishing touches, which I assume were added after its creation, or were left in during the remaking.
The felt appears to be a midnight blue, and the ribbons that trim it are slightly lighter. I find the combination beautiful.
The external measurements are as follows: brim at 6.5 cm, ribbon is 2,5 cm and the lowest point of the crown is 10.5 cm.
The internal measurements are: 19x16.5 centimeters
I bought it with the clear intention of being able to wear it after some work to adjust it to my size. That's not possible, it's too small to fit, so if anyone is interested, let me know.
