Does this hat have a name?

[GreyGus]

I have seen this style hat in original photos from the 1860s and 1870s. Usually worn by men in working attire, although one studio photo showed it worn by a young man in suit and long overcoat. This style seems to be contemporary with the wheel hat also popular in the mid 1800s. Is there a name for this style hat?
I couldn’t find one.so I had a friend make this for me. Medium weight grey wool with a cotton lining. It is a favorite causal hat for cool weather, very comfortable.

 

[Jon Crow]

Looks like a kepi style hat

 

[jchance]

cadet cap

 

[GreyGus]

Looks like a kepi style hat

The original photos this hat was copied from do not show the tapered sides or recessed rigid top of a kepi.

 

[Jon Crow]

cadet cap

Chance that's what I thought, I was sure I'd seen a similar west point cadet cap

 

[Frunobulax]

I think it looks like something you would see on a Russian head in the early 20th century.

OK, that's from Fiddler on the Roof, but you get my point.

 

[Jon Crow]

Hey the great Fiddler! ' If I was a rich man '

 

[GreyGus]

Found a couple 1860s historical photos of similar hats

 

[Jon Crow]

Found a couple 1860s historical photos of similar hats

That second pic I'm sure I've seen it in Victorian England also once on the movie the Pickwick papers

 

[milandro]

these hats were, I believe , very common in 19th century and were used in some form or other throughout the world

In the NL the traditional fisherman's hat shows pretty much the same characteristics with the added frieze decorations

These caps seem to have been give " Prinz Heinrich cap " name or Elbsegler cap , other sellers on line refer to it as a " jewish" Fiddler on the Roof cap ( there is nothing particularly Jewish about this cap! It was just a cap popular at the time when the film was based on) and Indeed they also refer to it as an Irish fisherman's hat or baker's hat

this kind of cap existed in similar forms everywhere


READ this article on wikipedia and it will confuse you even more...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariner's_cap

 

[shopkin]

All of these suggestions have more taper on the crown and less crown height than the OP photo. The OP photo is not a Greek Fisherman's, Baker Boy, Fiddler, Pinky Blinder or other cap of that type. It does not appear to have been cut such that the crown can fold down over the bill.

The OP photo is more like a military, cadet or Fidel Castro style.

 

[GreyGus]

The Lady that made this hat for me referenced it as a “Mechanics” hat. I’m sure that is not an official term. She probably adopted it because this type hat often appears on the heads of tradesmen in the 1850 to 1900 period.

 

[beetleything]

Brian ..... and he's not the Messiah

 

[rogueclimber]

I was sure I'd seen a similar west point cadet cap

Granted I graduated in 1986, but I never had a hat like that...

 

[milandro]

Again, I doubt there is a proper, univocous name for this type of hat , it existed in thousands of minute variations

As long as it hat a soft top and a visor of some sort it was this kind of hat.

Mechanic's hat? Yes why not but not any Mechanic post the '40 for sure!



Maybe she meant a (train) engineer hat ?



which is of course another form of an hat that existed is so many variations and permutations.

stripes and herringbone blue material?

James Cagney who had caps and hats for every character had a few of these too

these hats were roof course akin to hats or caps used in uniforms
thank the bade out of the equation

they exist is so many variations

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[Jon Crow]

Granted I graduated in 1986, but I never had a hat like that...

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I meant west point 19th century not modern period haha

 

[Frunobulax]

I think we should just name it "Kevin."

 

[Jon Crow]

I think we should just name it "Kevin."

Or Gary, some of you UK guys will get that one

 

[milandro]

only fools and horses would do that!

 

[Jon Crow]

only fools and horses would do that!

You know it makes sense