The Agents of F.L.A.S.K.

[DogFacePonySoldier]

I entered thinking this thread was about cool looking vintage Flasks as I am interested in that and a nice vintage lighter.

Since the last book I read is a bit on the mind control, Programmed to Kill by David McGowan

Although not outright the thesis is that the Military Complex made some sort of Manchurian Candidates that is connected to the Serial Killer phenomena during the 70s-80s. So they can blackmail powerful people, take out any rivals, political to criminal ( as in black ops ) all very unscrupulous, with a sense of “plausible deniability”

Douglas Valentine wrote about the CIA having access to some top brass wrote about some of their more shady operations. His book on the Phoenix Program, shed light on a program to demoralize and frighten the Vietnamese to surrender by making a black market of information to stop “the communists” encouraging some very violent means to scare the surrender of the war in the population. Violence in the level of Mexican cartels and abu grahb.

Psychologist Dr Thomas Narut of the navy said as much in a 1975 press conference but later re-canted it. A program of brainwashing prisoners that they selected due to a predilection of being able to commit violence, such as a dramatic violent childhood.

The Kay Griggs 1998 interview feels like a long form podcast and is very fascinating and veers into the behavior and mental issues of people associated with this side of government.

 

[Tiki Tom]

I entered thinking this thread was about cool looking vintage Flasks as I am interested in that and a nice vintage lighter.

Since the last book I read is a bit on the mind control, Programmed to Kill by David McGowan

Although not outright the thesis is that the Military Complex made some sort of Manchurian Candidates that is connected to the Serial Killer phenomena during the 70s-80s. So they can blackmail powerful people, take out any rivals, political to criminal ( as in black ops ) all very unscrupulous, with a sense of “plausible deniability”

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Douglas Valentine wrote about the CIA having access to some top brass wrote about some of their more shady operations. His book on the Phoenix Program, shed light on a program to demoralize and frighten the Vietnamese to surrender by making a black market of information to stop “the communists” encouraging some very violent means to scare the surrender of the war in the population. Violence in the level of Mexican cartels and abu grahb.

Psychologist Dr Thomas Narut of the navy said as much in a 1975 press conference but later re-canted it. A program of brainwashing prisoners that they selected due to a predilection of being able to commit violence, such as a dramatic violent childhood.

The Kay Griggs 1998 interview feels like a long form podcast and is very fascinating and veers into the behavior and mental issues of people associated with this side of government.

Welcome, DogFacePonySoldier!
The Fedora Lounge Adventure Speakeasy Klub (F.L.A.S.K.) has covered everything from sea monsters to lost cities to ghosts and the paranormal to bizarre mysteries. But I don’t think we’ve ever talked about strange (or illegal) goings-on at the CIA. Probably this is because so many of our sources are deep within that Agency and a big slice of our huge budget comes from there. Additionally, if you look at any of the personal histories of any of the Agents of F.L.A.S.K, you‘ll generally find straight-faced references to their long past secret work at shadowy three-letter agencies. Nonetheless, despite these facts, we should not shy away from attempting a (cough) thorough investigation into these SHOCKING claims.

And the truth is stranger than fiction.

Fortunately in 1975 —after journalists at the NYTimes exposed a laundry list of misdeeds— the justly famous Church Committee (named after its chairman Frank Church) led the charge to investigate and clean up the intelligence community. The committee found evidence of Assassination attempts, mind control experiments, spying on law-abiding U.S. citizens, and other VERY BAD STUFF. Scroll down in this article for the complete list:

https://www.levin-center.org/frank-church-and-the-church-committee/

Fortunately, the Church Committee‘s work led to some pretty serious reforms. Gerald Ford signed an executive order banning political Assassinations, and the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence was established to keep an eye on things. (again, see list of reforms in the above article.)

In short, Doctor Evil was sent packing!

Or was he? As you point out, fiction is filled with rogue spies plotting wicked operations. Furthermore, conspiracy theories abound that say the intelligence community is still up to nefarious deeds. Among my favorites is this one:

https://www.metabunk.org/threads/cl...er-of-meta-materials-from-crashed-ufos.13773/

And of course, we’ve already mentioned rumors that Project Stargate (psychic spies) was never really disbanded. I hope that particular rumor is true!

As they say: “Those who know don’t tell. Those who tell don’t know.”

This post will self destruct in five seconds.

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[The one from the North]

Declassified CIA file reveals aliens committed 'revenge massacre'

A bone-chilling CIA document has exposed an alleged massacre by aliens from a crashed UFO.

www.dailymail.co.uk

And what do we think of this? Such goings on! Interesting story anyhow. The original document can be loaded from the CIA website.

 

[Tiki Tom]

More on Russian UFO experiences from Congressional Record submission. Starting about paragraph 8…

https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews....rge-Knapp-Congressional-Record-Submission.pdf

What does it all mean?

 

[DogFacePonySoldier]

Welcome, DogFacePonySoldier!
The Fedora Lounge Adventure Speakeasy Klub (F.L.A.S.K.) has covered everything from sea monsters to lost cities to ghosts and the paranormal to bizarre mysteries. But I don’t think we’ve ever talked about strange (or illegal) goings-on at the CIA. Probably this is because so many of our sources are deep within that Agency and a big slice of our huge budget comes from there. Additionally, if you look at any of the personal histories of any of the Agents of F.L.A.S.K, you‘ll generally find straight-faced references to their long past secret work at shadowy three-letter agencies. Nonetheless, despite these facts, we should not shy away from attempting a (cough) thorough investigation into these SHOCKING claims.

And the truth is stranger than fiction.

Fortunately in 1975 —after journalists at the NYTimes exposed a laundry list of misdeeds— the justly famous Church Committee (named after its chairman Frank Church) led the charge to investigate and clean up the intelligence community. The committee found evidence of Assassination attempts, mind control experiments, spying on law-abiding U.S. citizens, and other VERY BAD STUFF. Scroll down in this article for the complete list:

https://www.levin-center.org/frank-church-and-the-church-committee/

Fortunately, the Church Committee‘s work led to some pretty serious reforms. Gerald Ford signed an executive order banning political Assassinations, and the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence was established to keep an eye on things. (again, see list of reforms in the above article.)

In short, Doctor Evil was sent packing!

Or was he? As you point out, fiction is filled with rogue spies plotting wicked operations. Furthermore, conspiracy theories abound that say the intelligence community is still up to nefarious deeds. Among my favorites is this one:

https://www.metabunk.org/threads/cl...er-of-meta-materials-from-crashed-ufos.13773/

And of course, we’ve already mentioned rumors that Project Stargate (psychic spies) was never really disbanded. I hope that particular rumor is true!

As they say: “Those who know don’t tell. Those who tell don’t know.”

This post will self destruct in five seconds.

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Thank you That was a fun read made me Feel like I was The Shadow ( I listened to some of those old radio shows online ) next time im out I’ll cloak myself in the dark corner with my collar up.

The skinwalkers at the pentagon in the mid oughts then talking about “bipedal wolves” [ both excellent band names ] with it being Lockheed is giving Boston Dynamic vibes.

The multiple kill vehicle “ MKV “ has crude but impressive multi direction activities. Believe it was Lockheed , you can find a wiki.

Maybe the MiC contractors are trying to reverse engineer something from the past. Even though the almost perverse technological advancement in killing machines is scary enough as it is.

The pyramids are a very seductive mystery as Gurdjieff believe the ancient Egyptians had a deep understanding of humanity and created things that resonate with people on a deep level, some who visit in the tombs say they feel it in a vibe sense.

However the Bible never directly mentions the pyramids.
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The stories of Siberia sounds very Lovecraftian like Mountains of Madness

 

[DogFacePonySoldier]

Well you can perhaps a sprinkle of Nazi lore with the alien weaponry. This just came out, right up the Flask alley

https://x.com/gregreese/status/1912590432749645848

 

[Tiki Tom]

Ha ha! Yes! Godwin’s Law in action!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

Of course, just because Godwin’s Law applies, it does not automatically mean that the Nazis did NOT have a secret base in Antarctica.

btw, over at the WWII discussion site, there is an entire thread about rumored nazi secret weapons programs.

 

[Tiki Tom]

Fellow armchair archaeologists! Time to grab your hats and whips!
What follows is an update on Gunung Padang:

https://rri.co.id/en/national/12463...-archaeologists-for-research-on-gunung-padang

The adventure so far (this is a very short version): First noticed by westerners in 1890, Gunung Padang is a pyramid shaped structure in the jungle of Indonesia. The stone structure was built atop an extinct volcano. Conventional wisdom always said that the stonework, etc, is about 2,500 years old, or thereabouts. HOWEVER, in the last few decades serious, credentialed Indonesian archaeologists have reopened the study of Gunung Padang.

Their finding is that the current stone stairways, terraces, etc, are built atop earlier layers. They say there is even evidence that there might be hidden chambers in the structure. Their surprising finding is that the man-made “pyramid” dates back more than 20,000 years. Their study was published in a respected archaeological journal in 2023.

That is when the sh$t began to fly. That age date is far too old! People building such large structures so long ago is NUTS! Everybody knows that civilization is only 6,000 years old. Oops! I mean 12,000 years old. (See Gobekli Tepe.) How embarrassing !

Archaeological Theorist and best selling author Graham Hancock embraced the story as it supports his theory that an unknown civilization existed around the time of the last ice age. He featured Gunung Padang in an episode of his (at that time) new Netflix series. However, main-stream archaeologists HATE Graham Hancock and quickly mounted an anti-Gunung Padang campaign. It is only fair to note that the “skeptics “ leading the charge had never visited the site. Given the controversy, the archaeological journal withdrew the paper. The paper’s authors complained that they were being unfairly treated by western archaeologists. The mainstream critics say they scored a win against “pseudoscience “.

The exciting 2025 update: The government of Indonesia (see article above) says it will convene a discussion to examine all the facts and that the study of the site will resume.

Yay!

If you are at all interested in the Gunung Padang controversy, the following YouTube clip Is (mostly) unbiased. Or, at least it tries to be unbiased… for the most part, anyways…

Fascinating stuff. Where do you stand? Are the pseudo-archaeologists getting out of hand? Or is the Archaeological establishment too eager to shut down debate?