How many new jackets do you have coming (and how many potential ones)?

[Monitor]

I hope the stitching is better than on the one posted by @Monitor

Robbie, if you're referring about the TFL Classifieds link I posted, like I said, it is the SAME jacket. You're getting the jacket from that TFL listing; Not the same style but that very same jacket.

And not only that, the seller seemed to have CUT OFF SIDE LACES from the jacket that you bought!!! If this particular alteration hasn't been fully disclosed to you, I suggest you immediately ask for a refund!!!

 

[Robbie79]

Nice, congrats. Indeed a very cool jacket.


You do know that's the same jacket right?



Maybe we have a different view on stitch quality, or maybe (probably) I'm a stitch counter. But the stitching on the handwarmer pockets of the deerskin jacket looked pretty sloppy to me.

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Thanks @Marc mndt Thanks for your feedback! Honestly speaking I didn't notice that on my former The Flat Head jacket and stitching quality of TFH is compareable with RMC....in other words both are not flawless. On the other hand I really like this cross zip and I don't know a maker who can make me one for this price as it's new (OK probably Aero pre-Brexit but now with 25% import fees no longer).

 

[Robbie79]

Robbie, if you're referring about the TFL Classifieds link I posted, like I said, it is the SAME jacket. You're getting the jacket from that TFL listing; Not the same style but that very same jacket.

And not only that, the seller seemed to have CUT OFF SIDE LACES from the jacket that you bought!!! If this particular alteration hasn't been fully disclosed to you, I suggest you immediately ask for a refund!!!

@Monitor Many thanks. The seller is a nice guy and he told me prior to buying that he didn't like the side laces and therefore contacted a professional leather tailer who modified it for him. As I don't care much about laces or no laces (I already have two jackets with laces) for this jacket, I'm really fine with it and I really hope that it fits and looks good. Fingers crossed. He said that he bought it brand new but preferred other jackets like RMC J23 (also with mouton collar).

 

[ABCD]

Thanks @Marc mndt Thanks for your feedback! Honestly speaking I didn't notice that on my former The Flat Head jacket and stitching quality of TFH is compareable with RMC....in other words both are not flawless. On the other hand I really like this cross zip and I don't know a maker who can make me one for this price as it's new (OK probably Aero pre-Brexit but now with 25% import fees no longer).

Ok but you know you're buying a botched up jacket right? (Resale value might not be that high)

Edit: nevermind I didn't read the above post ^^

 

[Robbie79]

Ok but you know you're buying a botched up jacket right? (Resale value might not be that high)

Edit: nevermind I didn't read the above post ^^

Who says that the jacket is botched? I can't really see it on the pics. The seller is picky with his jackets and chose a specialist who can deal with these alterations. Maybe you're right, maybe not - I hope not. We'll see next week.

 

[Monitor]

Who says that the jacket is botched? I can't really see it on the pics. The seller is picky with his jackets and chose a specialist who can deal with these alterations. Maybe you're right, maybe not - I hope not. We'll see next week.

All good if you personally don't mind that the side laces have been removed but of course it is botched because this is a serious alteration that's been done to a very expensive jacket and if it doesn't work out for you, you'll either have to deliberately withhold this information, hoping that the buyer doesn't find out the truth (provided you're gonna end up selling the jacket) - or - If you do make a point of mentioning it, it's a kind of thing that will considerably affect the price.

Especially combined with that very questionable stitching the jacket is already going on there.

I'm just saying, be careful; I don't want you to lose money and while I've known about this jacket for a long while now and I initially kind of wanted it, I gave up on the idea after seeing that bad stitching. I just realized the laces have been removed today and I frankly wouldn't want to deal with re-selling it even if it was a lot cheaper than it was.

 

[Robbie79]

Who says that the jacket is botched? I can't really see it on the pics. The seller is picky with his jackets and chose a specialist who can deal with these alterations. Maybe you're right, maybe not - I hope not. We'll see next week.

I think the result looks fine - I think better than the Fine Creek Leather The Nostar jackets with cut belt and epaulets...damn I think FCL did steal his idea

 

[ABCD]

Who says that the jacket is botched? I can't really see it on the pics. The seller is picky with his jackets and chose a specialist who can deal with these alterations. Maybe you're right, maybe not - I hope not. We'll see next week.

Oh sorry I didn't mean to imply that the alterations were done badly. They probably did a real good job because it's impossible to tell the laces were there, if you don't know. It's just that personally, I'm not too keen on jackets that have been altered.

 

[ton312]

I think the result looks fine - I think better than the Fine Creek Leather The Nostar jackets with cut belt and epaulets...damn I think FCL did steal his idea

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You'd certainly never know the laces were there to begin with. Typically they help dial in the fit around the torso, hopefully they were primarily decorative.

 

[Carlos840]

I think the result looks fine - I think better than the Fine Creek Leather The Nostar jackets with cut belt and epaulets...damn I think FCL did steal his idea

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The jacket was not "altered" in the proper sens of the term, they literally just chopped of the lace holders with a stanley knife FCL style! (you can see the side of the cut edge in your last pic)
To me an "alteration" would have been to unstitch them and restitch the panels leaving no sign they ever existed.
Cutting them off is IMO a slight "botch up"...
In the end, as long as you are happy with the result and mention it when you sell it on it's all good, but i don't think i would have bought it...

 

[ton312]

The jacket was not "altered" in the proper sens of the term, they literally just chopped of the lace holders with a stanley knife FCL style! (you can see the side of the cut edge in your last pic)
To me an "alteration" would have been to unstitch them and restitch the panels leaving no sign they ever existed.
Cutting them off is IMO a slight "botch up"...
In the end, as long as you are happy with the result and mention it when you sell it on it's all good, but i don't think i would have bought it...

Yeah you're right they did cut them. I had to REALLY look but the edges are there. Robbie, take it to a tailor and have them properly removed.

 

[Monitor]

Oh, right! I didn't see the back measuring photo until now. Yeah, they just sliced them off. The seller is lying to you @Robbie79 , no specialist laid a finger on that jacket. Someone just cut 'em off. What @Carlos840 says, an actual professional alteration would include opening the seams, removing the leather bits and stitch it all back up.
You're lucky if they haven't damaged the leather panel underneath while cutting the laces holders out.

I seriously recommend you to not go through with this deal. If the jacket doesn't fit you, you're in trouble.

 

[red devil]

Yeah, that seller seems dodgy, it clearly looks like a hack job on a very expensive jacket

 

[ABCD]

The seller is lying to you @Robbie79 ,

He was definitely lying when he said he bought it new.

The jacket has at least one previous owner:

https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/fs-vintage-the-flat-head-padded-moto-jacket-sz-40.99428/

 

[Peckinpah]

Got a shipping notification today, my Highwayman is on it's way. Should be here tomorrow.

Excited and nervous, I hope it fits. Never had something tailor made before.

 

[Tom71]

@Tom71 Looking forward to seeing your Original Hercules! Big fan of the design but not many pics of it in the wild

Yes, will do. Due to the hide-change it will be another 6 weeks at least. Thanks to my diligent planning, I won´t have to go un-jacketed in the meantime though...

 

[Tom71]

Many thanks @Mysteryo for sharing the Vinted link. I finally couldn't resist as IMO this The Flat Head jacket looks super cool and is brand new. The thick mouton collar is detachable and the lining is rather thick according to the seller. I hope the stitching is better than on the one posted by @Monitor but on the other hand my deerskin TFH jacket I sold last year had nice stitching and overall quality was quite nice.

The seller from France was very helpful and answered all my questions regarding size and sent me many measurement pics. After a friendly phone call with this passionate jacket collector during Lunch break we finally made the deal. Normally it should fit me well...but let's see middle/end of next week.

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Now THAT looks spectacular...!

 

[Imuricecreamman]

Made a deal for this Schott HH 689. Looks substantial.

 

[dannyk]

@JCSD had a Gap Suede Trucker he thought would fit me very well and let me know. All the measurements look good, only PTP is in that zone of well in some makes and models it’s fine, in others it’s a touch big. But hey if it is a touch large I’ll sell it for what I got it for and someone will be really happy. But JCSD is not only awesome for reaching out about it I told him with my wedding fast approaching (September) and trying to pay everything off; I wouldn’t have payment until this coming Thursday or Friday when I get paid. I said list it if you want and if it sells I will not cry haha. He said hey man I totally understand that I’ll hold it until then. This is why I love dealing internally with other TFL members. We don’t lie, try to rip off, or extort others. And often times make deals we would never do for outsiders. So got that on the horizon!

 

[Jin431]

@JCSD had a Gap Suede Trucker he thought would fit me very well and let me know. All the measurements look good, only PTP is in that zone of well in some makes and models it’s fine, in others it’s a touch big. But hey if it is a touch large I’ll sell it for what I got it for and someone will be really happy. But JCSD is not only awesome for reaching out about it I told him with my wedding fast approving (September) and trying to pay everything off; I wouldn’t have payment until this coming Thursday or Friday when I get paid. I said list it if you want and if it sells I will not cry haha. He said hey man I totally understand that I’ll hold it until then. This is why I love dealing internally with other TFL members. We don’t lie, try to rip off, or extort others. And often times make deals we would never do for outsiders. So got that on the horizon!

@JCSD is stand up guy. Guys our size should definitely stick together!