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2jakes

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The lifting was an issue when a supervisor asked me if I was going to
let my co-worker carry the heavy teleprompter at a televised telethon.

He had a certain attitude about women
and was using me as an example.

I answered sarcastically something
like...”she gets paid just the same like
I do!”

My co-worker and I are good friends
and we help each other all the time.
I hadn’t noticed when she picked up
the heavy stuff, otherwise, I would’ve
helped her without giving it a
second thought.

This supervisor also felt that a woman’s
place should only be at home!

Like Fading Fast.... it’s just an observation!
 
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I'd have to say that class insecurity and insecurity in general are very real to most people. American history has always been boom and bust, sometimes localized, sometimes nationwide. Sometimes government policies help, other times not. The problem is, the economy is not something that can be easily controlled and usually can't be controlled at all, at least not under our form of government and economy. There is a lot about it that is unfair, sometimes verging on criminal, a lot that is bad for the country as a whole (meaning the national government), which is not to say that the national government never makes bad decisions. The government does not operate with one mind, though, and national fiscal policy seems to benefit a few people at the expense of the future. The day will come when we won't be able to find anyone to loan us any money.

And the deliberate manipulation of class insecurity by the dominating classes to ensure the continuation of the existing class structure is as fundamental to "America" as apple pie, hot dogs, and the red white and blue. For whom, after all, do The Boys really work?

Imagine the old image of the donkey pulling a cart, with a farmer holding a carrot in front of the donkey's nose on the end of a long stick. The whole system depends for its continued existence on that donkey never getting wise to what's really going on.
 

GHT

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Of course! Women work in factories; not in construction. Everybody knows that.
Well of course they do, but you have just got to read the CV (resume) of one Linda Miller, Project Manager on the fifteen billion pound new "Crossrail" train line through London. She's an American lady and what a gal she is. There have been a number of one hour documentaries on TV, following the construction and all it entails. Roman remains were uncovered, a black death burial pit unearthed and previous plans like Brunel's under Thames tunnel brought out from the archives, and fronting it all on screen, Linda Miller. She's amazing.
 

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Imagine the old image of the donkey pulling a cart, with a farmer holding a carrot in front of the donkey's nose on the end of a long stick. The whole system depends for its continued existence on that donkey never getting wise to what's really going on.

I love donkeys!
Do you still have the photo I sent you? :)

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I love donkeys!
Do you still have the photo I sent you? :)

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Short funny story. My dad and my girlfriend's dad were born a few years apart '24 and '29. Growing up, I "got" that my dad had a crush on Angie Dickinson and it was in no way advertised loudly the way everything is today; you had to pick up the subtle cues, but he had a thing for her.

Twenty plus years later, I met my girlfriend; ten years after that we're watching an old movie and Ms. Dickinson pops up and she tells me that her dad had a crush on "Pepper" (Dickenson's famous role as "Police Woman).

Yup, we both grew up with dads with a "Pepper" crush - never openly acknowledge, but known to all in our respective families. Ms. Dickinson clearly was the it girl for a certain generation of men.

Last small part of the story: One Christmas, years ago, when it was just her dad and I sitting there, I slowly steered the conversation to '60s film stars and, then, causally tossed out Ms. Dickenson's name. For a man who shows emotion via a slowly raised eyebrow or a slight change in the curve of his mouth, I saw the equivalent of a pinball machine light up.
 
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...I have noticed in the last several years more women in NYC working in construction. I've asked a few of my buddies who also work construction and to a man they all said about the same thing - they have no issue with it if the women can handle the work and the lifting required. They said many can do the work, but the lifting becomes an issue and a handicap for many and adversely impact all the workers. And these are not Neanderthals and all seemed open minded but honest versus just saying it was no issue...
A good friend who is a former firefighter has told me roughly the same thing about the people he has worked with in that career. There were a handful of those men who were adamantly against the idea of women invading their professional "territory", but most didn't care one way or the other as long as those women could do the job. And he added that quite often those female applicants would out-perform their male counterparts so impressively during testing (both physically and mentally) that they would almost immediately earn the respect of their potential future co-workers.

I couldn't care less about whether my co-workers are male or female, the color of their skin, their background, their sexual preferences, what kind of car they drive, their favorite flavor of Jell-O, or any other form of irrelevant criteria that so many people focus on. As long as they are able and willing to do the job they were hired for, that's all that matters.
 

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^^^^^
"Looks have gone, but the light is still shining!"

My first crush when I was in the 5th grade and seeing her again through
social media book half a century later. ;)

My Mom tells me that my first crush was when I was about 6. Honey West (Anne Francis) on the tube. Although it won a Golden Globe award and an Emmy nomination, looking at it now, it was a horribly acted show.
 

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A good friend who is a former firefighter has told me roughly the same thing about the people he has worked with in that career. There were a handful of those men who were adamantly against the idea of women invading their professional "territory", but most didn't care one way or the other as long as those women could do the job. And he added that quite often those female applicants would out-perform their male counterparts so impressively during testing (both physically and mentally) that they would almost immediately earn the respect of their potential future co-workers.

I couldn't care less about whether my co-workers are male or female, the color of their skin, their background, their sexual preferences, what kind of car they drive, their favorite flavor of Jell-O, or any other form of irrelevant criteria that so many people focus on. As long as they are able and willing to do the job they were hired for, that's all that matters.

100% agree .
With the exception of smoking cigarettes or eating garlic prior to going
on a date.
It’s not very pleasant or romantic when
dancing “cheek to cheek”.
This applies to Mars and Venus!
 
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A good friend who is a former firefighter has told me roughly the same thing about the people he has worked with in that career. There were a handful of those men who were adamantly against the idea of women invading their professional "territory", but most didn't care one way or the other as long as those women could do the job. And he added that quite often those female applicants would out-perform their male counterparts so impressively during testing (both physically and mentally) that they would almost immediately earn the respect of their potential future co-workers.

I couldn't care less about whether my co-workers are male or female, the color of their skin, their background, their sexual preferences, what kind of car they drive, their favorite flavor of Jell-O, or any other form of irrelevant criteria that so many people focus on. As long as they are able and willing to do the job they were hired for, that's all that matters.
My first requirement in a co-worker is that we get along together. If you're going to be working closely with someone, that's important.
 

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My co-workers are news reporters.
I do the camera work.
We do what is necessary to get the job done.
How, why, when or what is between us and no one else.
We trust & watch each other’s back.
We are equal in all respects.

This goes back to my days in the military as well.
 
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You know you are getting old when airlines are retiring their fleets of 747s and you remember when they were the latest, hottest technology. I remember flying a 747 when I was quite young and being excited because it was new and cool and had “jet set” associations. Now they are a bit tired (DC-3s are aging more gracefully.)

http://www.denverpost.com/2017/10/27/united-airlines-retiring-boeing-747-denver/
 
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You know you are getting old when airlines are retiring their fleets of 747s and you remember when they were the latest, hottest technology. I remember flying a 747 when I was quite young and being excited because it was new and cool and had “jet set” associations. Now they are a bit tired (DC-3s are aging more gracefully.)

http://www.denverpost.com/2017/10/27/united-airlines-retiring-boeing-747-denver/

Like you, I was a kid when the 747 was the new thing.

I never flew on one in its heyday, but in the mid-'90s, when discount airlines were growing, I took a flight in one that, sadly, used all its expansive space to pack in as many people as possible, so the flight wasn't elegant, but it is still neat to have flown on that behemoth once.

And, yes, the DC-3 has aged gracefully, possibly more gracefully than any other plane ever.
 
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Same here. I remember all of the praise heaped upon the 747 in the press in the early-70s as they introduced it to the general public, touted as being the biggest and bestest and roomiest and easiest to fly; I think they really just wanted to reassure their potential passengers that it's unusual but now-iconic "humpback" design was a step forward in aeronautics. Our house was (and still is) adjacent to one of the primary approach paths to Los Angeles International Airport, so I've spent a lot of time throughout my life watching the incoming flights as they passed by. As such, I'm not too surprised to hear of the 747's retirement; these days Bigfoot sightings are more frequent. *sigh* Another era comes to an end.
 

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One of my co-workers who lived for many years near the airport finally
decided to move to a quiet neighborhood.
Next thing I knew was that he and the
family moved back.
It was too quiet in the neighborhood and
they could not sleep.

I’ve noticed that in the Fall, the distant sound of the train whistle
and tracks in the evening is pleasant and helps me
to fall asleep.
 
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2jakes

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You know you are old when you remember taking a commercial flight on a DC-3.
That uphill walk on the aisle to get to your seat.

When you had to walk the ground to board the aircraft.
Folks would be several feet away behind
the wire fence to see you off as the plane
made it’s way down the runway.

Brought back souvenir Bowie knife I bought overseas with no thought about
hiding it. Security like today did not exist.
 

2jakes

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Sunset Limited Railway station.
Beautiful building with real wood & brass everywhere.
Train clerks and conductors in their uniforms.
Shoe shine and news paper stands. Big clocks on the walls
or on the street corners.
Bubble gum, soda water, cigarette vending machines along
with the “Guess Your Weight” penny scales.

“ALL ABOARD!” :D

It was really nice!
 

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