Why!!!! Hipsters!!! Why!!!!!

[ButteMT61]

This makes me laugh too.

Every lifestyle is derided by someone. Difference is, some of us could care less. Join in, it's more fun. Nobody called for the termination of hipsters here.

 

[John in Covina]

That is a contemporary statement. If someone who is over 70 referred to a hipster, the term would not be at all derogatory.

Actually - the concept of a hipster in the first incarnation I am aware of (post WWIIish 50's early 60's) a hipster may have been polished and considered more of a party going guy or gal. It was regarded as someone that could use their new values as an escape from being reliable, some one you could not personally rely upon. WAtch Perry Mason and you'll see establishment and the uptight not trusting hipsters.

 

[m0nk]

Actually - the concept of a hipster in the first incarnation I am aware of (post WWIIish 50's early 60's) a hipster may have been polished and considered more of a party going guy or gall. It was regarded as someone that could use their new values as an escape from being reliable, some one you could not personally rely upon. WAtch Perry Mason and you'll see establishment and the uptight not trusting hipsters.

Expounding on this, I seem to recall the term hipster (or at least a nod to it) in The Song of the Thin Man, circa 1947. The musicians and guests at their parties were all considered hipsters.

 

[LizzieMaine]

It's always interesting on a website that fetishises fedoras, moustaches and vintage clothing, to find anyone complaining about hipsters.

I hope people realise that all three of these things are derided by the vast majority of people as "things hipsters would do".

And now I find "they've" cornered the awful coffee shop coffee market!

bk

I couldn't care less about the clothes or the coffee, or even the moustaches, although I've never seen a moustache that didn't make the wearer look like a cartoon character, a silent-movie comedian, or a spiv. It's the mass gentrification of working class neighborhoods that I despise. That and the fetishization of smirking irony, which I loathe even more than the gentrification.

 

[kiwilrdg]

Actually - the concept of a hipster in the first incarnation I am aware of (post WWIIish 50's early 60's) a hipster may have been polished and considered more of a party going guy or gall. It was regarded as someone that could use their new values as an escape from being reliable, some one you could not personally rely upon. WAtch Perry Mason and you'll see establishment and the uptight not trusting hipsters.

Good point, I should have added "unless the person using the term is a square."
It sure is hard to agree on what languge means.

 

[Yeps]

My understanding of the old use of the word was that it referred to white people who adopted urban black culture (jazz and such).

 

[LizzieMaine]

Malcolm X had some interesting thoughts on that sort of "hipster" in his autobiography -- he thought they reeked of insincerity and something which we today would call "the fetishization of the exotic." He had less respect for them than he did "square" white people.

 

[ButteMT61]

I didn't even know there was a label for them until the kids told me. I'm square man. Tote square.

 

[jamespowers]

I didn't even know there was a label for them until the kids told me. I'm square man. Tote square.

Not toking square?

 

[jamespowers]

What? No Meghan or Zooey?

You forgot Kennedy, Brajdyn, Mayflower, Dayleigh, Eagle, Paychence, Dusk, Blaze or Brooklyn.

 

[kiwilrdg]

Hipster and square are both terms that can be positive or negative depending on how and when they are used.

Hipster can be a person who understands the trends and is good with them, or it can be an insincere or irresponsible person.
Square can be someone set in their ways who cannot understand others or it can be a reliable and responsable person.

If you look at the way the terms are used the positive and negative really stem from extremes of the same things.

 

[Paul Roerich]

"Hipsters, flipsters, and finger-poppin' daddies, knock me your lobes!

I came to lay Ceasar out,
Not to hip you to him.
The bad jazz that a cat blows,
Wails long after he's cut out..."


-- Lord Buckley, 1955 (with apologies to Shakespeare)

 

[1961MJS]

Hi

O.K. I feel better about myself now:

http://www.wikihow.com/Be-a-Hipster

I knew a couple of people like this in High School in the 1970's. "I went through my drug phase in Junior High."

"It ain't cool if you gotta work at being cool."

Later

 

[rocketeer]

They also seem to believe Vintage is everything from the 70s 80s and even 90s.
It just made it harder for those now that were looking for true vintage before everyone called everything vintage, and I'm not alone.

I only just started reading this topic and guess what came up! 'Vintage'
To use the term vintage most know what we mean but when as you say "They also seem to believe Vintage is everything from the 70s 80s and even 90s." That is correct! Were I to be asked 'How old is that shirt? I could reply , " it is of 1980s vintage" as my bottle of wine is a vintage 1972 Lafite, or how about a 1999 vintage Lafite, another good year.
Now, a vintage car is generally a vehicle manufactured after 1919 to around 1930, before that it would be a veteran and after 1930 to the wartime era a Classic. Though this is another term bast*rdised by owners who consider any old car to be classic, or in the case of the Fedora Lounge, 'Vintage'
Its not the thrift stores that have made the prices high, it's all those out to make a killing by going into the thrift store and asking for items from golden era's to be put aside for themselves, then take it home and stick it on *Bay and similar sites.
I dont think this shirt is that attractive myself, but thats only my opinion. To start the pattern is ok but none of it has been matched, ie the pocket so to blend in with the rest of the shirt, also the same where the shirt buttons up the design does not flow into the other side.
So what if he has a beard and sunglasses, I once painted a smiley face on a paper bag and stuck it on my head when taking pics of a leather jacket for the 'Bay', some say that may have improved my chances of selling it
J

 

[LizzieMaine]

Many of us here couldn't care a rat's hiney about the label "vintage," and some of us actively dislike and repudiate it. It's a word that screams screams of cheesy marketing, smarmy irony, and trend-pushing -- much like the word "hipster" itself -- rather than any sincere appreciation for the Era. Death to "vintage."

 

[1961MJS]

You forgot Kennedy, Brajdyn, Mayflower, Dayleigh, Eagle, Paychence, Dusk, Blaze or Brooklyn.

All perfectly excellent names for your daughter...



If expect her to receive her pay check in her garter.... :eeek:

You do need to add Courtney and Tiffany.

I apologize in advance, but it was there and I had to shoot it.

 

[jlee562]

It's always interesting on a website that fetishises fedoras, moustaches and vintage clothing, to find anyone complaining about hipsters.

I hope people realise that all three of these things are derided by the vast majority of people as "things hipsters would do".

And now I find "they've" cornered the awful coffee shop coffee market!

bk

Amen. The kettle and pot are both black.

 

[V.C. Brunswick]

If we go by the exact definitions of "antique" (more than 100 years old) and "vintage" (more than 25 years old) then vintage could cover just about anything between 1912 and 1987. So the '70s and '80s fits right into that parameter.

 

[jamespowers]

All perfectly excellent names for your daughter...



If expect her to receive her pay check in her garter.... :eeek:

You do need to add Courtney and Tiffany.

I apologize in advance, but it was there and I had to shoot it.

I wouldn't touch any of those names with a ten foot pole.

 

[Paul Roerich]

New York City's first "vintage clothing" store officially opened in the early 1970s. The store's owner didn't use the term "vintage": she called her merchandise "experienced clothing".