Which hat for a Noir Movie ?

[Camille DeLarge]

Ok j'irais me renseigner sur les tailles précisément !

http://www.chapellerie-traclet.com/...chapeau-feutre-poil-pliable-le-chazelles.html

Celui là à l'air sympa ! Des retour ? Avis ?

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This one is nice! Return? Opinion?

 

[Camille DeLarge]

Skal vi ikke forsøge at holde dialogen på engelsk? Ellers kan dette hurtigt blive et splittet og uinteressant forum

And translated from Danish:

Shouldn't we try to keep the dialog in English? If not, this could soon be a divided and uninteresting forum

Sorry guy ^^

 

[TheDane]

This one is nice! Return? Opinion?

- but it's quite far from the Noir-period. With it's low tapered crown it looks like a 60s hat

 

[ManofKent]

- but it's quite far from the Noir-period. With it's low tapered crown it looks like a 60s hat

Agreed, and the modern Flechet bears no resemblance to the original company. What size are you looking for?

 

[frenchgentleman]

I do agree with what TheDane and ManofKent have said. The problem with most ready-to-wear modern hats will be the low crown if you want a "film noir" hat anyway. I have no Akubra Federation IV myself but if you want to stay in ready-to-wear maybe this would be the best alternative? You should read the Akubra Fed IV thread, I think you can buy it open crown if you wish. Also maybe "The Film" by Borsalino? Or if you can find a Stetson Nostalgia somewhere.

Regarding Flechet, once their slogan was "Chapeaux Fléchet, chapeaux parfaits" ("Flechet hats, perfect hats"). I have a 1943 "Fléchet Grand Luxe" from my grandfather, it is in great shape, high crown, quite boxy, not much taper, very high quality felt. I think I have read somewhere (maybe on the Lounge) that Flechet was a French company that had their factory at Chazelles s/ Lyon. Now it is a museum and the brand Fléchet was acquired by a distributor, whose hats are made in Italy or Eastern Europe. And the quality seems no to be the same anymore.

Regarding the size, you should now that it can differ a little from maker to maker: for example I have a modern Borsalino, size 58, but it is tighter than a size 58 hat I had from another company. I dont know which one was the most accurate.

 

[Camille DeLarge]

Okay, so if I'm looking nostalgia, I would have to find an original / vintage hat.

I think I'll stay with my choices are to take the hat Royal Stetson Whippet, and we can find it easily.

 

[John Galt]

Okay, so if I'm looking nostalgia, I would have to find an original / vintage hat.

I think I'll stay with my choices are to take the hat Royal Stetson Whippet, and we can find it easily.

But at a high cost, usually...


"Faint hat never won fair lady."

 

[TheDane]

But at a high cost, usually...

+1 ... my thoughts exactly

 

[Camille DeLarge]

But at a high cost, usually...


"Faint hat never won fair lady."

Yes, but I'm ready to spend $ 200.

 

[TheDane]

Depending on size and condition, that's not a lot for a whippet

 

[KingAndrew]

When I looked at the Chapellerie website link, there was a hat in the lower right corner called the "Bogarte." It looks like it has a higher crown than the imitation Gris, but it still didn't look as 1940s as a Fed IV.

 

[John Galt]

Depending on size and condition, that's not a lot for a whippet

Yes, alas (mostly) gone are the days of $40-60 Whippets. I picked one up in a BIN for $68 or so a few weeks back though. It still happens from time to time, but you've gotta be fast & lucky...

Oh, and it helps to be a pinhead ;-)


"Faint hat never won fair lady."

 

[scottyrocks]

IYou should read the Akubra Fed IV thread, I think you can buy it open crown if you wish.

They come open-crown.

 

[Stanley Doble]

Funny remark about film noir by Robert Mitchum in the last interview he ever did.

Noir films were B pictures. The features got all the best equipment, we had to light our scenes with a couple of cigarettes.

 

[TheDane]

Funny remark about film noir by Robert Mitchum in the last interview he ever did.

- and he probably meant it more or less as a joke. One of the characteristics was a sparse lighting with hard shadows (poor lighting, seen from a traditional PoW). I'm quite sure, it was due to visual style - not due to finances. Actually nobody made "film noir" back in the day. The concept became a mainstream term long after the noir era. Only very few movie-professionals used the expression in the 50s, while everybody was talking film noir in the 70s.

 

[hatsRme]

Vintage Silhouettes. Also close, IMHO.

 

[T Jones]

Definitely looking noirish hatsRme....

Nobody did film noir like Mitchum and nobody wore the Whippet as well as he did....

"Out of the Past"


Honorable mention from the same movie...looks to be a Stratoliner...

 

[Stanley Doble]

He also said he wore the same old hat and trench coat for years, they just changed the girl and the script.

 

[T Jones]

He also said he wore the same old hat and trench coat for years, they just changed the girl and the script.

I dunno....the coat looks different but the hat does look the same though...Well, the girl's different too!

Robert Mitchum and Janet Leigh (Jamie Lee Curtis' mother). From the 1949 Christmas romance movie, "Holiday Affair". I actually liked that movie!...

 

[Lotsahats]

"Why the dame picked my office, I don't know. What I do know is that my life wasn't the same again..."

He also said he wore the same old hat and trench coat for years, they just changed the girl and the script.

:lol: