What seperates "golden era" from "midcentury"?

[jamespowers]

 

[2jakes]

"Arsenic in rice"...not to be confused with arsenic & lace .

Most probably know this, but I just found out .
On Dr. Oz today it was reported that low-levels of arsenic have been found in all crops of rice-
brown, white, wild, regardless of the country they are grown, regardless of the farming methods
(ie. doesn't matter if it's organic or not). :eeek:

 

[V.C. Brunswick]

Hence, recognize what "Locally Sourced" is - a good idea at the margin, but when writ large and taken as a sign of forward thinking, it is an obnoxious, self-indulgence for people who need to prove something.

"Locally Sourced" = Ten minute walk to the supermarket.

 

[HudsonHawk]

Most probably know this, but I just found out .
On Dr. Oz today it was reported that low-levels of arsenic have been found in all crops of rice-
brown, white, wild, regardless of the country they are grown, regardless of the farming methods
(ie. doesn't matter if it's organic or not). :eeek:

Most of your food is full of dihydrogen monoxide too. I'm sure Dr. Oz will eventually get around to scaring people with that one to get them to buy whatever he's huckstering.

 

[LizzieMaine]

On that point, at least, there's actual evidence that organic arsenic is less dangerous than inorganic.

Arsenic can be a real issue in well water. A friend lived downhill from an old cemetery, and had to stop using her well because tests found it to be extremely arsenicky. Evidently there were several Civil War soldiers buried in that particular graveyard, and their bodies had been sent home from the battlefield pickled in arsenic as a preservative, and that arsenic has now contaminated the groundwater. Oopsies.

 

[HudsonHawk]

On that point, at least, there's actual evidence that organic arsenic is less dangerous than inorganic.

Arsenic can be a real issue in well water. A friend lived downhill from an old cemetery, and had to stop using her well because tests found it to be extremely arsenicky. Evidently there were several Civil War soldiers buried in that particular graveyard, and their bodies had been sent home from the battlefield pickled in arsenic as a preservative, and that arsenic has now contaminated the groundwater. Oopsies.

Maine is a well-known "hotspot" for arsenic in groundwater. Much of it is naturally occurring, though a lot is anthropogenic as well. Most of the western US also has very high levels of naturally occurring arsenic. In fact, when the USEPA lowered the federal drinking water standard from 50 ug/L to 10 ug/L in 2006, about half of the public drinking water supplies in Texas could not meet the new standard.

 

[2jakes]

Most of your food is full of dihydrogen monoxide too. I'm sure Dr. Oz will eventually get around to scaring people with that one to get them to buy whatever he's huckstering.

I usually don't watch Dr. Oz . But my friend who does, mentioned about the "arsenic" found
in rice.

So I watched the Dr. Oz program again.

I saw a man who is providing information that he feels will promote better health from the food we eat.


The people who are invited to his show also provide information that they feel will be better for our health.

There are "sponsors" who put the tab for this show to be on the air. I get this.

But I did not see this man "huckstering" or scaring people into buying anything.
He is giving people choices .


This is my perception of the Dr Oz show.

 

[jamespowers]

"Arsenic in rice"...not to be confused with arsenic & lace .

Most probably know this, but I just found out .
On Dr. Oz today it was reported that low-levels of arsenic have been found in all crops of rice-
brown, white, wild, regardless of the country they are grown, regardless of the farming methods
(ie. doesn't matter if it's organic or not). :eeek:

I hate rice anyway--no loss.

 

[HudsonHawk]

I usually don't watch Dr. Oz . But my friend who does, mentioned about the "arsenic" found
in rice.

So I watched the Dr. Oz program again.

I saw a man who is providing information that he feels will promote better health from the food we eat.


The people who are invited to his show also provide information that they feel will be better for our health.

There are "sponsors" who put the tab for this show to be on the air. I get this.

But I did not see this man "huckstering" or scaring people into buying anything.
He is giving people choices .


This is my perception of the Dr Oz show.

Read up on his recent battles with other doctors, medical ethicists and Congress on his pimping of "fairy dust" for ratings.

 

[2jakes]

Read up on his recent battles with other doctors, medical ethicists and Congress on his pimping of "fairy dust" for ratings.

I will do that & thanks for sharing .

 

[tonyb]

Seems as good a place as any to drop this image. The Kubus chair, credited to Josef Hoffman and the often uncredited Lilly Reich. It dates from (get this) 1910. Yes, 1910. So, midcentury long before the middle of the century, and before what we have come to call art deco, or “golden era,” for that matter.

 

[Tiki Tom]

^^^^
That is stunning in how far ahead of its time it is. Incredible

When I lived in Vienna, I often thought that fin de siecle Vienna was just a short step away from modernism. This writing desk is by Moser, 1902, Vienna. Looks at least 30 years ahead of its time.

 

[tonyb]

^^^^^^
Thonet, the Austrian company most noted for its ubiquitous bentwood “bistro” chairs, got into manufacturing tubular steel chairs designed by the likes of Mart Stam, Marcel Breuer, and Mies van der Rohe. (And the often overlooked Lilly Reich.) Thonet‘s manufacturing with tubular steel commenced in 1930 and the stuff is still being made, a mere 94 years on.

Trends come and go. The popularity of this stuff waxes and wanes, too, but it’s never been “outdated,” to use one of my least-favorite words. Chances are excellent you’ve plopped your own sweet behind on a Cesca chair (the one second from the right, with the cane seat and back), with armrests or without. Breuer designed it in 1928 and it’s been knocked off by the millions pretty much from the git.

 

[Tiki Tom]

1928! My jaw hit the floor. That is a valuable piece of trivia to know. Thanks!

To quote Adolph Loos, “weep not. We have outgrown ornamentation.”

 

[Tiki Tom]

Get a load of this:

https://www.pamono.com/art-nouveau-armchairs-by-joseph-maria-olbrich-vienna-1900-set-of-2

Two chairs from 1900. Price: $16,600.
Here I will quibble: they are perhaps not art nouveau. Let’s say jugendstil.,
120+ years later, they would not look out of place in any modern home.

 

[tonyb]

The Cesca from 96 years ago. Yet many think it an MCM standard, because, well, it kinda is.

Them’s some long legs, especially for a legless chair.

 

[tonyb]

Get a load of this:

https://www.pamono.com/art-nouveau-armchairs-by-joseph-maria-olbrich-vienna-1900-set-of-2

Two chairs from 1900. Price: $16,600.
Here I will quibble: they are perhaps not art nouveau. Let’s say jugendstil.,
120+ years later, they would not look out of place in any modern home.

Yeah, I’m not usually one to get exercised over questionable categorization, but these are not art nouveau in my book, either.

Nice chairs, but I’ll never be so well-heeled as to consider handing over that kind of money. The description leaves me wondering if the extensive restoration might have actually devalued them.

 

[Tiki Tom]

Agree completely.

 

[tonyb]

Sadly, today there is a whole generation of folks out there who have bought into the sham that you have to go to some kind of school to do anything, and they genuinely believe that because they accrued a mountain of debt going to culinary school that they are now somehow endowed with an ability to make a better donut or cupcake or barbecue sandwich or whatever than a fat veteran in a dirty t-shirt or someone's grandma.

The education racket has its own turf to protect. Hence the proliferation of for-profit schools that popped up about the time of your post, nearly a decade ago now.

It’s not just the trade schools, either. A person can learn quite a bit by studying journalism, say, or fine arts, at a post-secondary institution. But if that person doesn’t have the chops, no amount of study will make of him anything other than a mediocrity. Mark Twain never attended college (nor even high school), Frank Lloyd Wright dropped out of the University of Wisconsin and there is little evidence that he ever received even a high school diploma. Such were the times. In our times a person often can’t get his foot in the door without the academic credentials.

 

[LizzieMaine]

And that's generally the result of "human resources" protocols and procedures that exist not for the good of the workers, but to protect the legal backside of the company. It's the same reason "job postings" are now required as part of "due diligence" for jobs that were once a matter of "how many hours are you available and when can you start?"

The worst experiences of my working life have been trying to train people who emerged from college with a B. A. -- which initials seem to mean, in my lines of work over the years, "Bad Attitude."