TartuWolf
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Almost forgot another favorite in these parts - Field Leathers!
I guess such a problem solves itself. Personally I never even considered buying a GW because of the (lack of communication on) wait times.
My only GW was purchased here on TFL second hand but as once was said on the show "Friends" it's real and it's spectacular!
There is something I find ironic. There was a time when leather was a statement of "I don't care what you think." ...the realm of bikers and leathermen. It is/was freeing to operate outside the constraints and expectations of mainstream society. If we want to say that today leather is about about fit and fashion, that's fine. But if we want to revel in the vibe of the past...well, to me it is not liberating if I have to worry about the length of my jacket or a stitch being out of place.Aero have always been popular. ELC used to be big news too, but I think they've priced most of us in these parts out now. A lot of lower-price band options that some years ago might have been sneered at are now popular as inevitably prices rise and not all our salaries do. (I know I'm earning, in real terms, 25% less than I did in 2009, as academic salaries here in the UK have risen at a below-inflation rate for the last decade-plus.) Civilian styles in general now clearly far dominate over milspec.
A lot of the changes since 2007 I suspect also come down to a significant change in membership. Back then, Outerwear was predominantly used by forumites who were interested in an overall vintage look and wardrobe outside of 'only' leathers. These days the discussion predominantly comes from a 'quality leather' perspective and often isn't focussed on the contextual wardrobe styles of vintage designs. Fifteen years ago, for instance, I don't recall us ever having a discussion where a jacket had a problem with being "too short" for low-rise jeans, that sort of thing. There's definitely much more 'modern' leather around now that there used to be here. That's the biggest change I've noticed, which inevitably will impact on what's popular. We definitely see more 60s styles, even 70s and later stuff now.
There is something I find ironic. There was a time when leather was a statement of "I don't care what you think." ...the realm of bikers and leathermen. It is/was freeing to operate outside the constraints and expectations of mainstream society. If we want to say that today leather is about about fit and fashion, that's fine. But if we want to revel in the vibe of the past...well, to me it is not liberating if I have to worry about the length of my jacket or a stitch being out of place.
There is something I find ironic. There was a time when leather was a statement of "I don't care what you think." ...the realm of bikers and leathermen. It is/was freeing to operate outside the constraints and expectations of mainstream society. If we want to say that today leather is about about fit and fashion, that's fine. But if we want to revel in the vibe of the past...well, to me it is not liberating if I have to worry about the length of my jacket or a stitch being out of place.
I have been here longer than anyone else in Outerwear, so I have a decent grasp of the history of the section. When I see a question that is covered in another thread, I try and steer the poster in the right direction. Not always successful, though.^^^…in general.
Well…everybody’s new here at one point.
To expect new folks to figure it all out before they post anything is like expecting a baby to tell you why they're crying.
It would be great when they first log in to have a big sign that says “Before you start a thread go to Google, ask your question, then type Fedora Lounge” and follow the links to the appropriate thread” but that would be odd for a forum.
So…we tell them that.
Wish i’d have known.
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