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Were fedoras worn during WW1?

Feraud

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Jovan said:
It was a number of factors including -- but not necessarily limited to -- automobiles, haircuts being more of a fashion thing, WWII, etc. Like the armholes debate, you can't really point to one smoking gun... to think one man held that gun seems, to me, a bit silly. Especially considering the same thing happened overseas.
Not to mention those 20-30's era frat boys and their rebellious streak.:)
 

pgoat

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Dixon Cannon said:


Well, it's been said before, Kennedy killed the hat! He all but refused to wear his top hat for his inauguration and seemed to be the death knell for top hats.

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Leon Russell
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Mac Rebennack
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-Reg Dwight

Perhaps 'Slash' will revive the trend, although some of these guys have failed previously!

-dixon cannon

marc tried it too (see my avatar)
 

Pat_H

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The aggravating movie viewer

carter said:
It was on the History Channel late last night on DirecTv in Dallas.


You know, now I can't watch this series, in the ones in which he's in his teens, without thinking "I wonder if that Fedora is correct for this era?".

I was already chronic about picking apart movie details as it was.

I'm still watching, however.
 

RBH

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Men's single breasted suits
Cir. mid-1920s
<a href="http://imageshack.us"><img src="http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/4006/20smenssuitsoz2.gif" border="0" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us"/></a>

from cir. 1919
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From the looks of the hat in the top photo {the one on the right}
it looks as if the hat Young Indy wore was pretty spot on .
 

Spellflower

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I think if Slash had any chance of bringing Top Hats back, it would have happened at the height of Guns N' Roses' popularity over a decade ago.

However, my brother is the singer in a band called A Three Ring Circus, and he received a Top Hat for Christmas, so maybe he'll start something.
 

Pat_H

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RBH said:
Men's single breasted suits
Cir. mid-1920s
<a href="http://imageshack.us"><img src="http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/4006/20smenssuitsoz2.gif" border="0" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us"/></a>

from cir. 1919
<a href="http://imageshack.us"><img src="http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/7157/1919ad4.jpg" border="0" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us"/></a>

From the looks of the hat in the top photo {the one on the right}
it looks as if the hat Young Indy wore was pretty spot on .

Whew! Now I can feel better about that while watching the show.
 

Pat_H

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Pat_H said:
Whew! Now I can feel better about that while watching the show.


Although. . . it does appear that the bash began to change a bit after 1920. Wonder what motivated that?
 

Pilgrim

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Judging by the pix posted on page one @1915, it appears that Homburgs and other rolled-brim styles were popular in that era. I saw some fedoras, but more hats with rolled brims. It does look like a period of transition.
 

Pat_H

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In the current issue of Rural Heritage, at page 108, there's a photo of a Jell-O wagon circa 1913. The driver is wearing a Fedora. It's not a crystal clear shot, but it looks to be as much of a Fedora as the photo Eisenhower holding one, while greeting JFK, which was recently linked in here.
 

Pat_H

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Pat_H said:
In the current issue of Rural Heritage, at page 108, there's a photo of a Jell-O wagon circa 1913. The driver is wearing a Fedora. It's not a crystal clear shot, but it looks to be as much of a Fedora as the photo Eisenhower holding one, while greeting JFK, which was recently linked in here.


I should note the crease isn't quite like most Fedoras, but very much like Ike's in the photo noted. Having said that, it sure looks like a Fedora.
 

Brad Bowers

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Here is an advertisement I recently added to my collection.

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This is a full-page ad, and very colorful by advertising standards back then. The hat is boldly styled, similar to the famous photo of Capone. It features side creases instead of a front pinch, but still looks strikingly like what we think of as a fedora.

The year?

1908.

Compare it to the typical Crofut & Knapp from 1906, which is also typical of most hat companies' ads of the time:

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Based on my research so far, I have to attribute this new hat styling and marketing to John Cavanagh, GM and VP of C&K at this time. It was his suggestion to reintroduce soft felt hats in 1906. His handiwork is seen all over this ad.

I find it interesting that Cavanagh, who was such a forward-looking innovator and visionary when it came to C&K and Dobbs hats, held his own baby brand, Cavanagh Hats, in a kind of time warp, almost unchanging and very conservative, from 1928 until the early- to mid-1950s, after he had retired from the company. Granted, his retailing concept of an exclusive store raised the bar that no company ever matched, but it's still funny.

Brad
 

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