Vanson Fit Check—Royale Enfield

[80H-d]

Hi all,

First time long time.

I used to have a Schott P693. I loved that jacket, but as I live in Phoenix, I had about 3 days a year it was realistic to wear it thanks to the wool lining. Moved it on and got a Schott 246 instead—much more comfy with its cotton liner, and lambskin to boot. It wasn't a perfect fit (a little tight in the arms when raised). But it was definitely good enough.

Then I lost 40 pounds. Swimming in that jacket. Moved it on. Spent a lot of time on this site and Vanson kept coming up for having great range of motion.

Enter this Size 40 Royale Enfield. Is it right? I am wearing it over a T-shirt. Ideally my jacket would fit comfortably over two layers (undershirt + button-down), maybe over a thin sweater/hoodie on the coldest of desert nights. I do not ride.

Concerns:
- sleeves seem too short
- torso length seems borderline? Is it a shorter style or is it simply too short?
- sleeves are tight on the forearms when zipped (would this ease with breaking in?)
- is it simply "tight because I'm used to a more relaxed fit" or is it just "too tight"?

My measurements:
- 30yo
- 6'2
- 19.5" shoulder
- 39" chest
- 24" shoulder to wrist
- 40" around the belly
- 34W30L pants

I have already returned this jacket. I am in contact with Nick at Vanson regarding some deletions I want to do (side buckles, throat button), so this jacket would have to go back regardless of fit.

Thanks for any advice/feedback!

 

[Jasonindenver]

It looks a touch short in the arms and torso to my tastes. The shoulders look good but it does appear tight in the torso. Are you thinking about a custom order or just whether to go for a 42?

 

[barnabus]

The sleeves are a little bit shorter than I would like them, but only by a small amount.

Torso length looks good to my eyes, and whilst snug I don't think it looks too tight.

All that said, you already think it might be too short and nobody else's opinion will change that.

 

[Jasonissm]

Sleeves look good to me for casual wear. I don't ride, nor do I intend to, so just touching the back of my palm is good for me.

Torso length also looks good to me, but it depends on your tastes. I like medium length the most, not too short, not too long around 25-26" back length for me at 5'11" but I also wear medium-high rise trousers which allows for the proportions to be more balanced,

 

[Daniel Veit]

I would add a bit to the front drop (1 - 2"), shorten the back by 0.25-0.5", as the jacket seems to ride up when closed and add 2" to the torso, as it seems to be very snug. Sleeves are down to preferences.

 

[Canuck Panda]

I've looked at the Royale version many times myself. In stock form it is shorter by an inch than the regular version, and tighter. Maybe try a regular Enfield in the same size before you go for the full custom. It will tick all your boxes except for deleting the side cinches, it is longer, a bit wider, no throat latch.

 

[80H-d]

It looks a touch short in the arms and torso to my tastes. The shoulders look good but it does appear tight in the torso. Are you thinking about a custom order or just whether to go for a 42?

I'm thinking about a 42 based on torso tightness (or preference for a relaxed fit? who can say). Would also need the sleeves lengthened from a 42.

I've looked at the Royale version many times myself. In stock form it is shorter by an inch than the regular version, and tighter. Maybe try a regular Enfield in the same size before you go for the full custom. It will tick all your boxes except for deleting the side cinches, it is longer, a bit wider, no throat latch.

That is a tempting option for sure. I prefer chrome over brass for the hardware, however, and from what I can tell based on the pictures, it does not have collar snaps—I might not prefer them in the end, but I think I do, and they are nice to have. Plus the sleeves would need lengthened on either model.

 

[80H-d]

I've looked at the Royale version many times myself. In stock form it is shorter by an inch than the regular version, and tighter. Maybe try a regular Enfield in the same size before you go for the full custom. It will tick all your boxes except for deleting the side cinches, it is longer, a bit wider, no throat latch.

Well, I ordered the regular Enfield. I took another look and the sleeves are an inch longer than the Royale. If it fits close enough to right, I might just keep it as is and not even return it to re-order one with the side-cinch delete. Brass isn't that big a deal once it tarnishes and neither are the snaps (plus it is set up for the steamliner insert which is a really neat concept to me).

Thank you for your counsel!

 

[Canuck Panda]

Well, I ordered the regular Enfield. I took another look and the sleeves are an inch longer than the Royale. If it fits close enough to right, I might just keep it as is and not even return it to re-order one with the side-cinch delete. Brass isn't that big a deal once it tarnishes and neither are the snaps (plus it is set up for the steamliner insert which is a really neat concept to me).

Thank you for your counsel!

Glad it worked out. The regular Enfield is hard to beat. They’ve got holiday promo right. now I think. i remember seeing the email. Not sure if the liner ever goes on sale though, but totally worth it, extends the use of jacket to all seasons.

 

[80H-d]

Glad it worked out. The regular Enfield is hard to beat. They’ve got holiday promo right. now I think. i remember seeing the email. Not sure if the liner ever goes on sale though, but totally worth it, extends the use of jacket to all seasons.

That's what I was thinking. It's worth getting since I wouldn't really need another jacket past that. So easy to, say, pack into a day bag for a short trip up north.

Can't wait to see how it fits once it gets here. Will update with more fit pics when it comes in.

 

[ton312]

The royale must be somewhere between the Enfield and Oxford in terms of fit? Seems slimmer than the Enfield and a. It more generous than the 9D.

 

[80H-d]

Received the Enfield in a size 40.

Sleeve length is much better. Chest seems now too big slightly? Torso is definitely too short—seems shorter than the Royale.

Having pondered things over the past few weeks, I think I want a brown jacket anyway, so TB it is.

Any recommendations for a good brown hide that feels nice and pliable/broken in out of the box? Was thinking maybe dark seal goat; their Bainbridge Dark Maple sounds like it breaks in very fast from their description.

Thanks for all your help guys!