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considered mid weight by most, Lost Worlds 3oz is amazing. My best jacket from Stuart- Buco J100
Any idea how Lost Worlds' 3 oz. horsehide compares to Aero's Vicenza horsehide?
considered mid weight by most, Lost Worlds 3oz is amazing. My best jacket from Stuart- Buco J100
The Vicenza seems a little thicker. Not sure I'd want a Cafe Racer in anything thinner than that. But the ELMC may be worth looking into. Eastman uses some very pretty leather btw. Doesn't get talked about enough on here.
I recently bought a new Schott 654 (the standard version, not the VN) and am enjoying wearing it. It seems to meet most of your criteria, SklounstDraxxer. Yes, there is some sheen to the leather on mine, but my understanding is exposure to water (as in light rainfall) will reduce that characteristic.
Here's a photo of mine, along with the link to the accompanying thread: http://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/schott-654-casual-racer.90415/
For what it's worth, my favorite of all the Vicenza HH's is the seal Vicenza, which I don't currently have. I did have the opportunity to see an Aero Premier HWM made from seal Vicenza and was blown away by the overall appearance.
Beautiful jacket! Where is the best place to find these, and is there any way to try them on?
EBay is a good source, I've had three: two 'Gold Label' (size 48) & one (size 50) more modern version. Personally I prefer the sleeve cut & hide of the Vintage jackets & am now down to just the jacket pictured. I paid around £130.00 to £150.00 each & for the money have been more than pleased
Got it! I'm trying my best to collect data points based on everyone's experiences (which, admittedly, is somewhat subjective). So far I've got that Aero's Vicenza horsehide is pretty similar to their goatskin, which are both a little thicker than Eastman's Italian horsehide.
I don't know if the ELMC labeled jackets are lighter, but my A-2 weight leather feels lighter than the Vicenza.
Owning a few jackets in some of the leathers you were curious about I can offer the following opinions on weight.
Vicenza is slightly thicker and heavier than both Diamond Dave's Shinki and ELMC's Italian Horse. While the last 2 are pretty damn similar I'd say the ELMC is slightly thinner than the Shinki but only marginally.
If you are after a light weight jacket, I'd second (third?) the Brooks Gold Label option tbh. For the price, you could order 2 jackets 1 size apart and then simply resell the one that doesn't fit.
They come up regularly on ebay, a lot in great condition
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I did have an Aero Goat jacket for a short time but it was a special case.
It was the Blue-Black Goat from their collaboration with Levi Vintage Clothing in the early 2000's so I'm not sure how it compares to their current regular goat.
It was thin but tough (in a good way) but I didn't like the pebbling pattern that is apparently standard on most goat. I haven't really considered goat since. From memory, it was a bit thinner than the Vicenza. Probably between the Vicenza and Shinki/ELMC.
I'm pretty sure Diamond Dave can get brown Shinki, he usually has to order in whatever leather you want.
We have a similar climate here. I can wear a Brooks for more days than any others. Remember Brooks jackets are sized small. I generally wear a 42. I wear a 44 or 46 in the Brooks.
I would say the leather is around or under 2oz weight. Some fashion leather is thicker. I find anything over 2.5oz is not useful here.
Some of the goat options (which are usually 2.5oz) mentioned are too warm also. I had a lovely goatskin half-belt that was made out of Aero's older goat-hide. Even with a cotton lining it was uncomfortable a lot of the time. I sold it because I didn't wear it.
I recently bought a Beau Breed cafe racer (as worn by Bronson in the 70's The Mechanic). It is the thinnest leather I have ever owned on a jacket. Turns out it's not my thing. It's quilted and feels puffy and the shoulders are very wide and it looks wrong on me.