The Hollywood Waist-

[djgo-cat-go]

Tarantula Pants

Posted pic in Murray's thread allready but thought, well hey....

 

[Freddie]

Bumping it up.

Is there anyone out there who's got a pattern for some traditional hollywood-waisted pants?

 

[repeatclicks]

Yes indeedee. Ive got 2 originals, one 1940s era and one from 1951. The 1940s one is available from evadress.com as a copy only. Finding originals is possible, but mens ones are hard to come by!

1951:

1940s:

 

[chanteuseCarey]

djgo-- where did you find the white belt?? Are yours the "vintage blue" shade they list? These look very cool indeed.

Posted pic in Murray's thread allready but thought, well hey....

 

[chanteuseCarey]

I'm at present having a pair very similar to these being finished up by a seamstress out here that owns a vintage store. She is a third generation seamstress, and occasionally makes some pieces from vintage patterns to also sell in her store. This is probably the first thing she has made in boys/men's wear.

These bespoke 30s/40s style trousers are being made for our 13yo son to wear next Sunday's ADSC Gatsby Summer Afternoon. I brought her the light yellow Ulster handkerchief linen yard goods. They have the dropped thin belt loops, full cut legs, a very long rise (which seems very strange to our son), deep cuffs and curved and pointed flap back pockets. They are completely underlined. These trousers are the first real step in Daniel's vision of the art deco wardrobe he wants. His style icon at this age is Fred Astaire.

Our son had a first fitting on Friday, she needed to take in the waist further. He's a skinny kid; a 22" waist, a 26-7/8" chest and he's 5'-1/2" tall.

Young Master Daniel will be wearing these with a cream linen-cotton RL cricket sweater, a RL dress shirt, a vintage bow tie and vintage boater. I'm hoping to enter him in the "Jay Gatsby Best Dressed Gentleman Contest".

btw, NickD made this eva.dress.com repro pattern for himself in wool. He said they were easy to make and fit well.

The 1940s one is available from evadress.com as a copy only. 1940s:

 

[YETI]

These went for cheap...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250446122090

 

[mattfink]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250446122090

40 waist and 30 length are not a desirable size...

 

[Guttersnipe]

40 waist and 30 length are not a desirable size...

Anything bigger than a 36" waist is a desirable size....

Call me a geek, but I've thought about it and I am convinced that waist sizes of vintage pants follow the usually only theoretical normal distribution of a 68/95/98 bell curve. It really seems like 95% of waist sizes being 2 sizes (or standard deviations in geek talk) up or down from the average size (which is about 32")

 

[mattfink]

Anything bigger than a 36" waist is a desirable size....

Call me a geek, but I've thought about it and I am convinced that waist sizes of vintage pants follow the usually only theoretical normal distribution of a 68/95/98 bell curve. It really seems like 95% of waist sizes being 2 sizes (or standard deviations in geek talk) up or down from the average size (which is about 32")

The problem with the pants in question is the combination of the waist and length. 30" inseam with 40" waist is fairly common and not desirable. 34"+ inseam with 40" waist is hard to find and therefore worth more money.

 

[Guttersnipe]

The problem with the pants in question is the combination of the waist and length. 30" inseam with 40" waist is fairly common and not desirable. 34"+ inseam with 40" waist is hard to find and therefore worth more money.

Well yeah, tall guys are usually SOL when it come to finding vintage slacks; but then again, so a the chubbier guys.

I think classifying pant with a 40"W x 30"I inseam as "not desirable" is only a fair assessment when comparing them with pair of 40"W x 34"I (a size which is as rare as a blue moon at noon!).

There are tons of 5'8-9" 200-210lbs guys who spend a fortune on clothes that fit them, and the ones I know, generally never pass up anything in their size.

 

[YETI]

Well I'm the Lou Costello of vintage sizes. So I'm so 'SOL'.

 

[YETI]

The problem with the pants in question is the combination of the waist and length. 30" inseam with 40" waist is fairly common and not desirable. 34"+ inseam with 40" waist is hard to find and therefore worth more money.

yeah, you make a very good point...a couple of weeks ago on ebay a nice pair of 40s deadstock salt&pepper work trousers in a size 48x30 didn't sell. I wear a 42-44 waist and couldn't pull the trigger cuz taking them in wouldn't seem feasible. I was afraid, in doing so, the rear pockets might appear too close to each other.

 

[mattfink]

Like I said, I've found ton's of pants in big waist/small length. They just don't sell so I don't buy them. Right now I've got over 10 pairs of vintage Hollywood waist slacks in 38W 33/34L...guess I'm not SOL eh?

 

[repeatclicks]

Whereas these... not so cheap....


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...995519&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_500wt_1182

 

[repeatclicks]

Also, currently working on a pair in gray wol with just a bit of black fleck in them from the Simplicity 1951 pattern I listed... Will post photos.

 

[Matt Deckard]

This is the latest pair I've done. Luckily this client was nearby so I could get a pic.

Wearing a Hollywood waisted Matt Deckard Apparel trousers in a black and white tweed.

Okay, so not the best photo... but it's a photo.

 

[mattfink]

Whereas these... not so cheap....


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...995519&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_500wt_1182

Weird that pair says they have a 14" inseam? LOL!!

 

[repeatclicks]

Weird that pair says they have a 14" inseam? LOL!!

I noticed that too! Still, being a 38/29, thats a good price for an odd size.

 

[mattfink]

I noticed that too! Still, being a 38/29, thats a good price for an odd size.

Maybe they meant the rise was 14"?

 

[onlyoneintown]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250446122090

I won theses haha great color too