The Bowler or Derby Hat

[mayserwegener]

Yes, a very interesting color combo...but also very "antique" looking to me. It looks like a fantastic hat.

Randy, Thanks! I could be wrong on the time period. Hutproduktiv Wien also used German wording on the same paper label format.

 

[mayserwegener]

Again: great workmanship and striking appearance on this hat. Fabulous, Steve.

Stefan, Thank you!

 

[mayserwegener]

Super, super find, Steve. I can just imagine how good it looks on your head. For me, it has a pre-war look, style, and feel to it. Either way, great catch.

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Steve, Thanks too! You could be right about the time period. I am just not sure why Hutproduktiv Wien would use French. They also used German on the same label format. Can you make out the hand written word under Qualité?

 

[Steve1857]

Steve, Thanks too! You could be right about the time period. I am just not sure why Hutproduktiv Wien would use French. They also used German on the same label format. Can you make out the hand written word under Qualité?

Steve, I think perhaps the solution as to why Hutproduktiv Wien used a French label lies in the fact, as you pointed out in another thread, that they were part of the French district of Vienna after the war. I think the components of this hat are pre-war and quite possibly put together after the war.
It's hard to read the handwriting under the designation Qualité, but with English eyes it could look like "Renewal", which would fit in with the ideal of the regeneration of Vienna and Austria after WWII.

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[mayserwegener]

Steve, I think perhaps the solution as to why Hutproduktiv Wien used a French label lies in the fact, as you pointed out in another thread, that they were part of the French district of Vienna after the war. I think the components of this hat are pre-war and quite possibly put together after the war.
It's hard to read the handwriting under the designation Qualité, but with English eyes it could look like "Renewal", which would fit in with the ideal of the regeneration of Vienna and Austria after WWII.

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Steve, Also possible it was made by C. Messmer Wien and it fell into Hutproduktiv Wien hands post WWII.

 

[Steve1857]

Steve, Also possible it was made by C. Messmer Wien and it fell into Hutproduktiv Wien hands post WWII.

That's also a possibility, Steve. There is no real way of knowing, but for me, either due to its production date or its components, your Hutproduktiv Bowler is pre-war.

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[mayserwegener]

J. Hückel´s Söhne "Plume", 56 cm, 136 grams, possibly late 1930s. Great felt finish and the condition is excellent.

 

[mayserwegener]

J. Hückel´s Söhne "Flexible", French Point 6 3/4 (60.5 cm), 158 grams, probably 1930s.

 

[Rmccamey]

Very nice Huckel!

J. Hückel´s Söhne "Flexible", French Point 6 3/4 (60.5 cm), 158 grams, probably 1930s.

 

[Steve1857]

J. Hückel´s Söhne "Flexible", French Point 6 3/4 (60.5 cm), 158 grams, probably 1930s.

Excellent 30's Hückel, Steve.

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[mayserwegener]

Excellent 30's Hückel, Steve.

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Steve, Thank you! It's a large size so I will put it up for sale.

 

[Steve1857]

Steve, Thank you! It's a large size so I will put it up for sale.

If only it were smaller, Steve. Some lucky person with a large dome is going to get one heck of a Bowler!

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[steur]

J. Hückel´s Söhne "Flexible", French Point 6 3/4 (60.5 cm), 158 grams, probably 1930s.

Very nice, Steve. I seem to have missed the good looking Plume before. Cool finds both. For some odd reason I find the name Schnorr very appealing.

 

[mayserwegener]

Very nice, Steve. I seem to have missed the good looking Plume before. Cool finds both. For some odd reason I find the name Schnorr very appealing.

Stefan, Thank you! Yes like the shop name.

 

[Steve1857]

Trying to get back onto my favourite followed threads on the FL after the powers that be on the FL have removed the Tapatalk option.

Here's an oldie but goodie Manchester Bowler.

 

[Rmccamey]

Wonderful to see you again with the Manchester, Steve.

Trying to get back onto my favourite followed threads on the FL after the powers that be on the FL have removed the Tapatalk option.

Here's an oldie but goodie Manchester Bowler.

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[Steve1857]

Wonderful to see you again with the Manchester, Steve.

Thanks, Randy

 

[steur]

Trying to get back onto my favourite followed threads on the FL after the powers that be on the FL have removed the Tapatalk option.

Here's an oldie but goodie Manchester Bowler.

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O my, that is fantastic, Steve. I don't think Hartley&Boedeker were a manufacturer (but I can't find the lists of hatters right now). Love the detailed liner.

 

[Steve1857]

O my, that is fantastic, Steve. I don't think Hartley&Boedeker were a manufacturer (but I can't find the lists of hatters right now). Love the detailed liner.

Thanks, Stefan. I thought they were, but memory gets lost over time

 

[steur]

Thanks, Stefan. I thought they were, but memory gets lost over time

They could be, but the name doesn't ring a bell. One of my hat books has some lists of hat manufacturers before and after WWII, but for the life of me I can't remember which one