The 80s, myth and reality?

[Edward]

Just a side question.
I'm not referring to any specific vintage style with this combi, I just like it. But could this be accidently matching 80s or late 80s in the Western world??

I remember poloneck jumpers like that having a big moment in mainstream menswear fashion in the UK in the very late 80s / turn of the 90s. My mother bought my brother and I one each at Christmas that year - and ended up wearing them herself, as I recall. We were both (me much more ideologically so than him) anti-fashion by that point.

 

[Jon Crow]

I remember poloneck jumpers like that having a big moment in mainstream menswear fashion in the UK in the very late 80s / turn of the 90s. My mother bought my brother and I one each at Christmas that year - and ended up wearing them herself, as I recall. We were both (me much more ideologically so than him) anti-fashion by that point.

Haha I have 2, one a submarine jumper style

 

[Edward]

Haha I have 2, one a submarine jumper style

These weren't the woolly, sub jumper rollneck stye - which I do like. They were a stretchy cotton, close fitting thing - the initial fashion trend was for them to be worn under a shirt (or - retch - shellsuit), but they were often worn as a top layer because they tended to be too warm. I think they were supposed to be a revival of the Beatles look circa Rubber Soul or Revolver, but they really flattered no-one. I remember finding them oddly effeminate - not that that was anything to do with why I didn't like them, but I've always found a wry amusement in seeing tat sort of fashion adopted by mainstream men in the area I grew up in ,what with the rampant cultural homophobia that was epidemic among many. Nowt as.... odd as folks.

 

[Trenchfriend]

The white is just a basic Jersey-cotton turtleneck shirt. Rare these days, but still available for 15 bucks. Standard item.

 

[Jon Crow]

These weren't the woolly, sun jumper rollneck stye - which I do like. They were a stretchy cotton, close fitting thing - the initial fashion trend was for them to be worn under a shirt (or - retch - shellsuit), but they were often worn as a top layer because they tended to be too warm. I think they were supposed to be a revival of the Beatles look circa Rubber Soul or Revolver, but they really flattered no-one. I remember finding them oddly effeminate - not that that was anything to do with why I didn't like them, but I've always found a wry amusement in seeing tat sort of fashion adopted by mainstream men in the area I grew up in ,what with the rampant cultural homophobia that was epidemic among many. Nowt as.... odd as folks.

Eeek those Kevin and Perry acid house things haha and shell suits I think Del Boy had a red one haha

 

[Jon Crow]

The white is just a basic Jersey-cotton turtleneck shirt. Rare these days, but still available for 15 bucks. Standard item.

My white is a soft cashmere type wool, roll neck, good under my leather jacket

 

[Trenchfriend]

But why turtleneck pullovers are called "jumpers"??

 

[Jon Crow]

But why turtleneck pullovers are called "jumpers"??

Generic term especially in UK, here in Spain it's Jersey, A jumper was originally the upper garment worn by Royal Navy sailors; it was made of a jersey material and was closed at the front, the idea being that fastenings didn't get snagged on rigging if you were furling sails and so on. The jersey material had enough give in it that you could pull it on over the head

 

[Jon Crow]

But why turtleneck pullovers are called "jumpers"??

Could come from the word Jupon, short garment

 

[Edward]

But why turtleneck pullovers are called "jumpers"??

AS @Jon Crow notes, it's a term used across the UK and Ireland. Means 'sweater', basically.

I do recall that in some parts of the US a "jumper" is some sort of ladies' dress, which has caused amusement to some in the past. Two regions divided by a common language an aw tha.

 

[Jon Crow]

AS @Jon Crow notes, it's a term used across the UK and Ireland. Means 'sweater', basically.

I do recall that in some parts of the US a "jumper" is some sort of ladies' dress, which has caused amusement to some in the past. Two regions divided by a common language an aw tha.

Haha like the term fanny in North of England means err, well different to the US meaning

 

[Edward]

Haha like the term fanny in North of England means err, well different to the US meaning

Well, quite.

Or Pants. Being caught sans pants in London is an embarrassment for an American - and an arrestable offence for an Irishman.

 

[Jon Crow]

Well, quite.

Or Pants. Being caught sans pants in London is an embarrassment for an American - and an arrestable offence for an Irishman.

Unless your a Jock haha

 

[Trenchfriend]

But another thing.
These typical peace time Parkas from the Hare Krishna time in the 70s, were they out in the 80s?

 

[Turnip]

In West Germany they weren‘t particularly out but the clientele swapped from the common „rebellious“ kid to the peace movement that had one of it‘s several reincarnations in early to mid 80s here, same happened to those Palestinian scarves. Certainly not too few have been put off that previous 70s-scene by the developing RAF terrorism in late 70s to mid 80s also.
But what certainly finally marginalized/killed that look has been MTV.

 

[Tiki Tom]

When did MTV cease to be a thing? I remember always having MTV on when I was getting ready for work or classes. Then one day people stopped talking about MTV and it disappeared from our radar.

 

[Jon Crow]

When did MTV cease to be a thing? I remember always having MTV on when I was getting ready for work or classes. Then one day people stopped talking about MTV and it disappeared from our radar.

Beavis and Butthead started on mtv, in the eighties there was a bar first to play the music videos in the pub from cable

 

[Zombie_61]

When did MTV cease to be a thing? I remember always having MTV on when I was getting ready for work or classes. Then one day people stopped talking about MTV and it disappeared from our radar.

I think the last time I heard someone not on television talking about MTV was around 1990. I never understood the fascination people had with it because I always found music videos boring, and was a little surprised to find out it was still going at the turn of the century. Now? Is it still on TV? I honestly have no idea, and really don't care either way.

 

[rogueclimber]

MTV still exists but it has been years since they played any music... Reality TV and other junk are what MTV is all about now

Though I do believe there is a classic M TV that may still play videos.

Man I loved M TV when they first started. I was in High School and my best friend had cable, what, 1980 or 1981...

 

[Trenchfriend]

But let me guess. I could have been a hit in the 80s, right? Along hairbands, fingernails and so on?