Suits - Pre 1920

[Fastuni]

Ok, now with the comparison (and noticing that it lacks a chest pocket), I take back my 20´s dating.
This very well appears to be pre-war.

 

[DamianM]

that is an early teens suit for sure.
There where so many variations at this time but this one is pre-1915

 

[Papperskatt]

that is an early teens suit for sure.
There where so many variations at this time but this one is pre-1915

Thanks for the confirmation. Seeing as this was my first "in real life"-find, it's good to know that I can trust my judgment.

 

[herringbonekid]

 

[simonc]

Very nice.

 

[Patrick Hall]

Those boots. Amazing. Also love the careless way the watch chain is threaded through the waistcoat, on the man who is standing.

 

[Mr. Speakeasy]

i especially like the contrast between the louder checks in the caps and striped socks against the black suits. And both are wearing quite interesting ties.

 

[herringbonekid]

jazz suit precursor:

 

[DamianM]

Not necessarily. Tthe jazz suit precursor would have been the "RAH RAH" suits

 

[herringbonekid]

Damian, if you move the three close-set buttons higher and slim down the shoulders then i think you're on the way to the jazz suit. i didn't mean that this was the suit immediately prior to the jazz suit in chronological terms, but that you can see jazz suit DNA in there.

what's a Rah Rah suit ?

 

[Flat Foot Floey]

 

[herringbonekid]

i quite like those pocket flaps.

 

[DamianM]

THAT'S A RAH RAH SUIT!
And hes wearing a Novelty blouse ( as the catalogs would say)

And like you said HBK
This particular design did make it up to the early 20s as a novelty Jazz model only with the slimmer shoulders and high button stance

 

[herringbonekid]

THAT'S A RAH RAH SUIT!

so is RAH RAH the slang term for those early-mid teens suits with the long flared skirt, pegged trousers, and overly fancy pocket flaps ?

 

[Flat Foot Floey]

I didn't know this was one.
Is the term "Rah Rah suit" taken from a catalog?

 

[DamianM]

It was from the catalogs. I'm not near my hard drive but yes they would be call the newest Novelty styles - "Broadway" or "RAH RAH " suits.
The Broadway title would also stick to anything flashy and over the top i.e Rah Rah or Jazz suits.

 

[DamianM]

Not all high button stance with angular pockets were jazz suits. I see a lot of confusion here and there
they were "up to the minute in style" but they were not jazz suits, just the newest designs.

 

[Chasseur]

so is RAH RAH the slang term for those early-mid teens suits with the long flared skirt, pegged trousers, and overly fancy pocket flaps ?

Great photos on this thread!

Last time we talked a little about Rah Rah suits: http://www.thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?66989-Peg-Pants

 

[herringbonekid]

Marc C did an amusing imaginary conversation that might have taken place at the conception of the jazz suit:

http://www.thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?6684-The-1920-JAZZ-SUIT&p=80558&viewfull=1#post80558

 

[Metatron]

What a hideous moon!
Interesting that the pocket watch chain seems to go through an opening above the flap.
Two overlaping pockets? Or a false flap?