Stetson Sweat Stamps/ LOT XXXX

[MikeinRome]

Stetson Number 1 Quality Campaign hat. Lot Number 4780. I haven't estimated a date for it yet, but it might be a little later than I was hoping for. I was hoping it was a WW1 hat. The smaller mfg tag is one of those brown tags or some obviously lighter colored tag than the other. After going back through this thread, I'm estimating this hat dates to ca. 1921. This is based on a hat on pg 15 of thread with Lot Number 5066 and the leather hatband has a 1922 date on it.

 

[carouselvic]

It’s an oldie, the vertical #1 logo only appeared on the wider sweatbands

 

[MikeinRome]

It’s an oldie, the vertical #1 logo only appeared on the wider sweatbands

Yes, the vertical logo and that texture or design that's stamped into the sweatband leather itself are what hinted to me that it was early and might actually be a WW1 hat.

 

[MikeinRome]

After going back through this entire thread again to refresh my memory, I see a hat on pg 14 of the thread with Lot Number 7710 that's dated Nov 1941. So hats with high 7000s Lot Numbers that I've tried to cram into being made in or before 1940 may actually have been made in 1941 or 1942, it seems. I just want to say that for the record.

 

[MikeinRome]

Stetson Number 1 Quality. Lot Number 7479. The serial number on the sweatband begins with the letter G. There's no mfg tags in the hat.

 

[MikeinRome]

Lot Number 6565. Stetson Stetsonian Clear Nutria, which I estimate dates about 1933-1934. More pics in the Stetson Nutria thread.

 

[MikeinRome]

Stetson Tom Mix Clear Nutria. Lot Number 5792. I think this dates mid to late 1920's. See full photos and description on Pre1940 Stetson Western thread.

 

[MikeinRome]

Lot Number 7534. Late 30"s Stetson No. 1 Quality.

 

[MikeinRome]

An early 1930's Miller Fine Hats of Denver, Colo, 4X Quality, made by Stetson and bearing the Stetson Lot Number 6634. Above the Lot Number is the word SOFT. See complete photos in Pre 1940 Non Stetson Western thread.

 

[MikeinRome]

Stetson No. 1 Quality, The Fray, BOP style hat, Lot Number 3324. Auctioned on eBay yesterday. Seems to date about 1915 according to 2 other dated hats with 3000 Lot Numbers.

 

[MikeinRome]

Stetson No. 1 Quality. Lot Number 5927, which I estimate late 1920's. See complete photos on Pre 1940 Stetson Westerns.

 

[Just Daniel]

Gosh, sorry I missed all the excitement over this post. I think it’s fascinating - those sweat stamps could easily have come from a subcontractor / sweatband manufacturer independent of Stetson or Stetson could have been manufacturing hats for other companies. I don’t think we can tell.

It‘s still super fascinating to see the stamp on another brand - and like you, I presume it is still associated with the dates we have established.

Daniel

PS Dude. Yes you over there in your basement - be nice.

"The Sheridan" model hat made for the Bloom Shoe & Clothing Co of Sheridan, Wyoming. It has a mfg tag for Thanhauser Hat Co, but it also has a Stetson Lot Number on the sweatband, Lot Number 224X, so Stetson must have made this hat. I think the hat dates approximately 1912 offhand, and I'm convinced it was made pre 1917 because of the Union label.

 

[MikeinRome]

Gosh, sorry I missed all the excitement over this post. I think it’s fascinating - those sweat stamps could easily have come from a subcontractor / sweatband manufacturer independent of Stetson or Stetson could have been manufacturing hats for other companies. I don’t think we can tell.

It‘s still super fascinating to see the stamp on another brand - and like you, I presume it is still associated with the dates we have established.

Daniel

PS Dude. Yes you over there in your basement - be nice.

As I've said here or elsewhere, I believe we can tell, and the obvious conclusion is that Stetson was making hats for other companies. Otherwise you have to convince yourself that some unknown contractor, etc exactly copied every single facet of Stetson's labeling. We also know Stetson made hats for Miller Fine Hats of Denver Colo., per the about early 30's Miller I've posted on this page. And Stetson also made hats for Stockman-Farmer Supply of Denver, owned by the same owner of Miller Fine Hats, Phillip Miller.

 

[MikeinRome]

Stetson Number 1 Quality made for Stockman-Farmer Supply of Denver. Dates about early 1930's. Lot Number 6451.

 

[MikeinRome]

An early 1930's Miller Fine Hats of Denver, Colo, 4X Quality, made by Stetson and bearing the Stetson Lot Number 6634. Above the Lot Number is the word SOFT. See complete photos in Pre 1940 Non Stetson Western thread.

This is the hat once owned by Elmer Keith.

 

[CRH]

This is the hat once owned by Elmer Keith.

Can you clarify that claim, Mike? Because I want to believe.