Stetson Dresden

[hatflick1]

Anyone else seen or hear about this new offering from Stetson?
Not a bad looking hat.
Thoughts?
http://millerhats.com/Fallhats.html
Just scroll down to locate it under New Hats In Stock.

 

[Duper]

Perhaps this is a model exclusive to Miller? Looks like the Temple only with a downturned brim.

It is always nice to have more choice!

 

[Not-Bogart13]

Well, I like the pinch. It looks tighter than a Temple. But that crown and brim are, as with most current Stetson, a bit small. I mean, do we really need another Stetson with a 4 inch crown and a 2 3/8 inch brim? The design of this hat looks like it should be taller and wider.

Don't get me wrong. I don't mind hats of this size being out there. But Stetson needs to get a little more adventurous in their so-called "new dress hat models." They have so many hats in the line, and I think only one has a 2 1/2 inch brim. And I don't think any model other than the Nostalgia has a crown suitable for people who need some body to a hat so it doesn't look like a dinner plate on their melon.

 

[Blackthorn]

It's a nice looking hat. I'd wear one.

 

[metropd]

Well, I like the pinch. It looks tighter than a Temple. But that crown and brim are, as with most current Stetson, a bit small. I mean, do we really need another Stetson with a 4 inch crown and a 2 3/8 inch brim? The design of this hat looks like it should be taller and wider.

Don't get me wrong. I don't mind hats of this size being out there. But Stetson needs to get a little more adventurous in their so-called "new dress hat models." They have so many hats in the line, and I think only one has a 2 1/2 inch brim. And I don't think any model other than the Nostalgia has a crown suitable for people who need some body to a hat so it doesn't look like a dinner plate on their melon.

+100000000000:eusa_clap :eusa_clap

 

[cptjeff]

Well, I like the pinch. It looks tighter than a Temple. But that crown and brim are, as with most current Stetson, a bit small. I mean, do we really need another Stetson with a 4 inch crown and a 2 3/8 inch brim? The design of this hat looks like it should be taller and wider.

Don't get me wrong. I don't mind hats of this size being out there. But Stetson needs to get a little more adventurous in their so-called "new dress hat models." They have so many hats in the line, and I think only one has a 2 1/2 inch brim. And I don't think any model other than the Nostalgia has a crown suitable for people who need some body to a hat so it doesn't look like a dinner plate on their melon.

If you don't like that model, pick up a whippet. They're making bigger straighter crowns, just looks like Miller doesn't have any, at least on that page. Besides, taller and straighter crowns don't look best on everybody. With my long thin face, I need taper.

As for the OP, I think it's a perfectly nice and respectable hat for some. Not my cup of tea. I don't like brims that big and I don't much like tonal ribbons. I also prefer brims snapped up in the back. But if it suits your tastes, I would say go for it. Tonal ribbons, wide brims and brims snapped down in back are hardly radical.

 

[rrog]

It looks nice to me. I'd wear one.

rrog

 

[marvelgoose]

Anyone else seen or hear about this new offering from Stetson?
Not a bad looking hat.
Thoughts?
http://millerhats.com/Fallhats.html
Just scroll down to locate it under New Hats In Stock.

Be Aware (as in beware) that you can only get store credit if you are not happy with your purchase at Miller. You will have to pay all shipping to and fro as well. I am sure they are nice people, but the policy there is definitely mail-order unfriendly.

for more see this thread

 

[Not-Bogart13]

If you don't like that model, pick up a whippet.

If you check the whippet stats, it's just a Downs (4 inch crown, 2 3/8 inch brim) with a bound edge. Nice hat, but still just another "small" hat.

They're making bigger straighter crowns, just looks like Miller doesn't have any, at least on that page. Besides, taller and straighter crowns don't look best on everybody. With my long thin face, I need taper.

I'm not denying that smaller shapes and sizes are called for. There are hat wears for every configuration of dimensions. But I look at the Stetson website and hat vendor sites regularly.

I just went through the following Stetson dress hat collections; Moderno, Impresso, Flesso, Classic, Vintage, and Cashmere Blend. Counting only fedora shaped hats (no pork pies, cattlemans, homburgs, etc.) I found ONE model with 2 3/4" brim, Five with a 2 1/2 inch, and TWENTY THREE with a side brim measurement of 2 3/8 or less! And almost all of the 2 1/2" and up had relatively short crowns (which I know from reasearch, because Stetson's website does not include crown heights). So, I think Stetson has people with your needs rather well... um... covered. It should also be pointed out that almost all of the "new models" fall under the 2 3/8" or less category.

'S all I'm tryin' to say.

 

[cptjeff]

2 3/8 is just not what I consider small, but point taken.

Huge brimmed fedoras are not really a big business these days. They'll make hats in accordance with the size of the market. If the market for 2 3/8 fedoras is the largest, that's what they'll make most of. You seem to be expecting the extreme end of the bell curve to have the same amount of representation as the middle. For you, a 2 3/8 may seem small, but for many of us it's fairly normal. Crown heights you have a very valid point on. I just looked through their now very annoying webpage, and you're dead on about that. Perhaps they expect people who want a big crown and a wide brim to be buying cowboys? [huh]

 

[Duper]

I just noticed our friends over at Bencraft Hats have a special Stetson Chatham with a 2 3/4 inch brim so someone is trying to pay attention to the folks who like larger brims.

"Styled with a fashionable teardrop crown, this Sovereign quality hat is made for us exclusively in the USA with a wider brim for a nostalgic 1940’S look."

Another choice in 5 colours!

 

[besdor]

There is no such style as the Dresden in Stetsons line. That hat is a Temple with the brim turned down.



Steven
www.bencrafthats.com

 

[hatflick1]

Dresden brim - Temple?

While others are probably far more knowledgeable than I in such Stetson matters, can the Dresden be a Temple with the brim turned down if the Temple features a 2 5/8" brim?
Just checking

 

[Not-Bogart13]

2 3/8 is just not what I consider small, but point taken.
... If the market for 2 3/8 fedoras is the largest, that's what they'll make most of. You seem to be expecting the extreme end of the bell curve to have the same amount of representation as the middle.

I submit two counterpoints. 1. Maybe the reason that most fedoras sold today are 2 3/8" brims or smaller because that's all we have to pick from. (Maybe) and 2. I view modern hat styles like any other clothing style that's readily available today - considerate only of those who conform to what's considered "standard" or "average" which is usually inaccurately smaller, thinner, and taller than the true average.

That said, I don't expect the extremes of the curve to equal the middle. I just want some "respect" paid to those who need or like "bigger". I notice that the smaller extreme gets more love than the bigger. And I don't know if I'd say 2 3/8" is small. I call it a nice middle ground, but many people can't pull off anything narrower than 2 1/2" That little bit makes a big difference.

I just noticed our friends over at Bencraft Hats have a special Stetson Chatham with a 2 3/4 inch brim so someone is trying to pay attention to the folks who like larger brims.

Yes, Bencraft was kind enough to secure an exclusive. I just wish the crown had also been made a little taller.

While others are probably far more knowledgeable than I in such Stetson matters, can the Dresden be a Temple with the brim turned down if the Temple features a 2 5/8" brim?

The Temple brim is dimensionally cut, which (if you don't know) means it's not the same width all the way around. A Temple has a 2 5/8" brim in the front, I think a 2 1/2" in back, and 2 3/8" on the sides. Something like that. Generally, if only one measure is given in a hat listing it refers to the sides. But not always.