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I agree, though I'm still wondering who thought it was a good idea to turn Pike into Martha Stewart in the second season; he spends more time in his quarters cooking than Captaining the ship. But then, considering the "Lower Decks" tie-in last week and this week's musical episode, I think the show may have gone completely off the rails and won't find it's way back.
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I think what's happening is that the entire franchise has decided to be completely self conscious about "being Star Trek" as opposed to creating a coherent fictional universe that happens to be presented under the name "Star Trek." In other words -- Meme Trek.
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I think it's a refreshing change, so long as it's mixed in with some more traditional Star Trek-style episodes.
Look at the ToS trible episode. Quite frivolous, yet one of the most mostly positively talked about episodes in the franchise.
Look at the ToS trible episode. Quite frivolous, yet one of the most mostly positively talked about episodes in the franchise.
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There's been discussion, both positive and negative, in various places about the new SNW episode 'Subspace Rhapsody.'
In short, I thought it was brilliant.
It had the potential of being wrong in so many ways, but was woven together to combine character history and development, while serving the plot of the story line. And anything that was silly was silly in the right places.
Check out this article:
https://www.space.com/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-musical-episode-explainedhttps://www.space.com/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-musical-episode-explained
In short, I thought it was brilliant.
It had the potential of being wrong in so many ways, but was woven together to combine character history and development, while serving the plot of the story line. And anything that was silly was silly in the right places.
Check out this article:
https://www.space.com/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-musical-episode-explainedhttps://www.space.com/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-musical-episode-explained
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And back to the BS-things:
Why the Shrike had no deflector shields active, when torpedoed by the Titan??
Why the Shrike had no deflector shields active, when torpedoed by the Titan??
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That whole storyline irritated me. It's well established that changelings don't even NEED ships.
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Wow, I never noticed, before!
In TNG 1x26, the Ralph Offenhaus speech to Picard, about "all about power" could be a reminescence to Orwells 1984!
I mean, Offenhaus meant power by money, but basically the same thing to "direct destiny", as he said.
No question, that Gene Roddenberry may had a reminescence in mind.
In TNG 1x26, the Ralph Offenhaus speech to Picard, about "all about power" could be a reminescence to Orwells 1984!
I mean, Offenhaus meant power by money, but basically the same thing to "direct destiny", as he said.
No question, that Gene Roddenberry may had a reminescence in mind.
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Actually watching First Contact another time in original tone.
I think, I will never watch it again in german synchro, because it's still crappy. It's so different and "TNG-fine" in original tone, I tell you!!
Def. aged well, especially from brilliant DVD on my brilliant CRT!
But what's still driving me nuts about the plot, is the fact, that they again used phasers and puls rifles, INSTEAD of giving all men klingon Bat'leths, surely easily made by replicator! Or at least the klingon D'k tahg. Come on, the Borg don't have fire weapons, so you could easily cripple them with blade weapons.
The logical problems of cinema movies...
I think, I will never watch it again in german synchro, because it's still crappy. It's so different and "TNG-fine" in original tone, I tell you!!
Def. aged well, especially from brilliant DVD on my brilliant CRT!
But what's still driving me nuts about the plot, is the fact, that they again used phasers and puls rifles, INSTEAD of giving all men klingon Bat'leths, surely easily made by replicator! Or at least the klingon D'k tahg. Come on, the Borg don't have fire weapons, so you could easily cripple them with blade weapons.
The logical problems of cinema movies...
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A five minute teaser trailer for ST: SNW season 3 dropped a coupla days ago. I'm excited for the new season.
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I suppose we shouldn’t take this too seriously.
Apparently William Shatner is in some very early discussions about playing Captain Kirk again.
https://screenrant.com/star-trek-william-shatner-kirk-return-paramount-plus-series-in-talks/
I would be happy if the Star Trek franchise gets rebooted in a meaningful way that reenergizes its fan base. The last time I watched anything Star Trek was when they tried to relaunch Picard. For me, it didn’t have the magic. Anyway, Shatner is in his 90s, so I suppose this might be a role designed to “hand off” the helm to someone else, but who knows? But I’m happy to hear that writers and producers are still thinking about the final frontier.
Mea Culpa: Someone has very quickly pointed out to me that Star Trek’s Strange New Worlds is on Paramount+. I have obviously never seen it. Perhaps tonight. Is it any good?
Apparently William Shatner is in some very early discussions about playing Captain Kirk again.
https://screenrant.com/star-trek-william-shatner-kirk-return-paramount-plus-series-in-talks/
I would be happy if the Star Trek franchise gets rebooted in a meaningful way that reenergizes its fan base. The last time I watched anything Star Trek was when they tried to relaunch Picard. For me, it didn’t have the magic. Anyway, Shatner is in his 90s, so I suppose this might be a role designed to “hand off” the helm to someone else, but who knows? But I’m happy to hear that writers and producers are still thinking about the final frontier.
Mea Culpa: Someone has very quickly pointed out to me that Star Trek’s Strange New Worlds is on Paramount+. I have obviously never seen it. Perhaps tonight. Is it any good?
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I had thought that Kirk sort of handed off the helm to Picard in "Star Trek: Generations" back in 1994. Hard to believe it's been over 30 years since that movie came out! Star Trek's Strange New Worlds is fantastic!
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Would be funny, if they would make a Babylon 5 & Star Trek crossover movie, where it's revealed, that Pavel Chekov was in truth always Alfred Bester, even able to travel through time to investigate.
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And he's actually a Time Lord.
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At the time, that was the intent. Kirk/Shatner and his crew were all getting too old to still be running around fighting off Stunt Klingons and such, and "Generations" was supposed to grease the wheels for the new Trek cast to take over the "movie theater" version of the show. Trouble was that Next Generation had already been on TV for seven years and the ratings were getting shaky, so this plan to do movies instead of television came just a few years too late. Also...well, for anyone who has seen Generations, you know it wasn't exactly the best Star Trek movie made, so the folks at Paramount had some work to do. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Very good. I saw the first three or four episodes on a plane a year or two ago, and enjoyed it very much. When we're done with Netflix for a few years (which will be after the next and final series of Stranger Things and Squid Games), I'll transfer that over to Paramount and see the rest.
The only false move I've gathered so far is that they've fallen prey to the tedious trend of doing a musical episode. Hopefully that's out of their system now...
Yeah, that was it. Shatner's never been happy about how they did it though.
That was the plan, and it worked well enough, for all Shatner's whining about it over the years. Generations wasn't the best, but it obviously did well enough to launch a run of three further films. Four to the original cast's six, but not a bad run in the pop culture of the time. Came much closer on the heels of the TV series, which ended in 94, same year as Generations was released. The classic show was ten years gone before the first film; thirteen years before Wrath of Khan, so it did have time to come back as a nostalgic thing.
The Abrams films were opinion splitters, I know (I liked them), but to get to three of those wasn't bad by this point. Outside of Marvel and DC, and maybe Bond, it seems like a trilogy (in three or sometimes four parts
) is the expected norm nowadays. It'll be interesting to see if ever we pick up any new cinema releases again, or if it'll all be streaming from hereon. If they're playing with alternate timelines, I'd love to see a limited series of the original vision for what later became The Next Generation. If memory serves, it would have been set shortly after Wrath, and built around Kirk's son (afaik the idea was dropped before they killed him off in the film). Kirstie Allie's Vulcan character, and the rest. Could have been an interesting alternative timeline for the Abrams pictures to link into - maybe Strange New Worlds will do something like that later on.
