So trivial, yet it really ticks you off.

[tonyb]

“Puyallup,” by the way, is pronounced “pew” (like the place you park your rump in church); “Al“ (like Alan’s nickname); “up” (opposite of down).
So it’s ‘‘pewALup,“ with the emphasis on the second syllable.

You’re welcome.

 

[Trenchfriend]

I repeat myself, but when in an interviews comes "ad-hoc", "systemic", "sustainable", I'm out...

 

[Edward]

So-called "experts" in human behavior have noted that the average human has no interest in anything that pre-dates their own existence. "World War II? No, I was born in 1987; I couldn't care less about that." Fortunately, I think most of the members here have an active interest in semi-recent history like the eras of World Wars I and II, and other specific areas of history that pique their curiosity for one reason or another. So, yes, I think that lack of interest has something to do with a dwindling membership.

I suspect there's an element of seoarating out the U and non-U to this, by design.

 

[GHT]

It seems that even the English struggle with this: https://www.countrylife.co.uk/comme...e-belvoir-featherstonhaugh-and-bagehot-227460

That link is succinct in the articulation of British Class society and snobbery. It permeates throughout our society. You might be forgiven for assuming that the left wing political party, who, by the name: "Labour Party," labour being a euphemism for those who earn their living by their labours, would be well and truly divorced of such pretentiousness. Don't kid yourself.

During WW2, the political parties put politics aside and merged to form a national government. The Labour Party leader, Clement Atlee, became deputy prime minister to Winston Churchill. That's Clement Richard Attlee, 1st Earl Attlee of Walthamstow, Viscount Prestwood. A right working class name if ever there was one.

Meanwhile the prime minister, Winston Churchill was: The Right Honourable Sir Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill. The reason Churchill had the title, "Sir," is because he had been made a Knight of the Garter.

A Knight of the Garter is a member of the Most Noble Order of the Garter, the oldest and most senior order of chivalry in the British honours system. The Order, founded in 1348 by King Edward III, is a prestigious and exclusive group, recognising individuals for their distinguished service to the Crown, the nation, or the Sovereign.

Does snobbery still exist? You bet it does. Once more we have a left wing government, the Labour Leader and now prime minister is one, Kier Starmer. That's Sir Kier Starmer, Knight Commander of the Order of the Bath.

The Order of the Bath is a special Order of Knights which recognises the work of senior military officials and civil servants. To be a Knight or Dame Grand Cross of the Order is recognised as the highest British military order obtainable. Historic figures who have been members of the Order include Nelson, Wellington, Earl Haig and Lord Kitchener.

Getting back to K/N's amusing point of names:
Henry St. John, 1st Viscount Bolingbroke was an English politician, government official and political philosopher. How would pronounce St. John? Go to the top of the class if you said: "Sinjun."

 

[Trenchfriend]

It's April, summer warmth is winking at the horizon and our german rail system starts to malfunction... So hello, omnibus.

 

[KILO NOVEMBER]

That link is succinct in the articulation of British Class society and snobbery. It permeates throughout our society. You might be forgiven for assuming that the left wing political party, who, by the name: "Labour Party," labour being a euphemism for those who earn their living by their labours, would be well and truly divorced of such pretentiousness. Don't kid yourself.

During WW2, the political parties put politics aside and merged to form a national government. The Labour Party leader, Clement Atlee, became deputy prime minister to Winston Churchill. That's Clement Richard Attlee, 1st Earl Attlee of Walthamstow, Viscount Prestwood. A right working class name if ever there was one.

Meanwhile the prime minister, Winston Churchill was: The Right Honourable Sir Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill. The reason Churchill had the title, "Sir," is because he had been made a Knight of the Garter.

A Knight of the Garter is a member of the Most Noble Order of the Garter, the oldest and most senior order of chivalry in the British honours system. The Order, founded in 1348 by King Edward III, is a prestigious and exclusive group, recognising individuals for their distinguished service to the Crown, the nation, or the Sovereign.

Does snobbery still exist? You bet it does. Once more we have a left wing government, the Labour Leader and now prime minister is one, Kier Starmer. That's Sir Kier Starmer, Knight Commander of the Order of the Bath.

The Order of the Bath is a special Order of Knights which recognises the work of senior military officials and civil servants. To be a Knight or Dame Grand Cross of the Order is recognised as the highest British military order obtainable. Historic figures who have been members of the Order include Nelson, Wellington, Earl Haig and Lord Kitchener.

Getting back to K/N's amusing point of names:
Henry St. John, 1st Viscount Bolingbroke was an English politician, government official and political philosopher. How would pronounce St. John? Go to the top of the class if you said: "Sinjun."

Thanks for the reference. Your note on "Sinjun" reminded me of an episode of Brokenwood, a police/mystery series made and set in New Zealand. One episode featured the murder of an amateur actor in community theater production of Romeo and Juliet, set in the small town of Brokenwood.

The director of the play (in civilian life the town postman) was, unsurprisingly, full of himself. His over-the-top posh pronunciation of his own name (Ralph St. John) caused an eye-roll from the detectives investigating the murder. Yes, he called himself "Raif Sinjun". Everyone else in town called him "Ralph" , as in "Ralph Kramden", or "Mister Saint John". Snobbery exported to the Antipodes.

 

[tonyb]

^^^^^^
I must remain mindful of this unfortunate tendency of mine to engage in a sort of anti-snobbery, which is itself awfully akin to that which it is ostensibly opposed. It can become its own kind of scorekeeping.

However, I suffer no compunction whatsoever over my disdain for “slumming.”

 

[GHT]

The advancement of time by one hour Is a very old tradition, dating back to 1916. The idea back then was to save fuel by having more daylight in the evening. It was essentially, a war effort. In WW2, the UK advanced the time by two hours, but nowadays is it really necessary? I am still find watches that our an hour "slow."