Show us your Guns!

[Story]

Please forgive me if I've missed this...

Does anyone here own a punt gun? And could someone expand on these weapons?

I've read quite a bit on wiki and google, but I'm wondering if anyone here has first hand or second hand experience with these strange things.

Friend of mine collects 8 gauge and above, described his friend's punt gun recoil as "brisk" (from a bench rest).

Have you seen :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7FeeamC4qk

Note the ordnance-like lash-downs. I'd read where the double-barreled versions (or two singles) had the locks timed and angles adjusted : the first barrel/gun would fire low, at the fowl on the water. The second would fire higher, catching the survivors at the beginning of their startled flight.

http://www.museum.state.il.us/River...waterfowl/tools_techniques/guns/punt_gun.html

http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/museum/artifacts/archives/003537.asp

James Mitchner touches on these in his novel CHESAPEAKE (and there's a museum with some at the south end of Harve D'Grace http://www.decoymuseum.com/).

 

[Undertow]

Friend of mine collects 8 gauge and above, described his friend's punt gun recoil as "brisk" (from a bench rest).

Have you seen :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7FeeamC4qk

Note the ordnance-like lash-downs. I'd read where the double-barreled versions (or two singles) had the locks timed and angles adjusted : the first barrel/gun would fire low, at the fowl on the water. The second would fire higher, catching the survivors at the beginning of their startled flight.

http://www.museum.state.il.us/River...waterfowl/tools_techniques/guns/punt_gun.html

http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/museum/artifacts/archives/003537.asp

James Mitchner touches on these in his novel CHESAPEAKE (and there's a museum with some at the south end of Harve D'Grace http://www.decoymuseum.com/).

Excellent, thank you very much! :cool2:

 

[jamespowers]

Friend of mine collects 8 gauge and above, described his friend's punt gun recoil as "brisk" (from a bench rest).

Have you seen :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7FeeamC4qk

Note the ordnance-like lash-downs. I'd read where the double-barreled versions (or two singles) had the locks timed and angles adjusted : the first barrel/gun would fire low, at the fowl on the water. The second would fire higher, catching the survivors at the beginning of their startled flight.

Holy Crimony! Now THAT'S a gun!

 

[jamespowers]

Excellent, thank you very much! :cool2:

So does this mean you have a line on one you are thinking of purchasing?

 

[Atticus Finch]

Please forgive me if I've missed this...

Does anyone here own a punt gun? And could someone expand on these weapons?

I've read quite a bit on wiki and google, but I'm wondering if anyone here has first hand or second hand experience with these strange things.

Thanks!

This book will tell you all that you could ever want to know about battery guns, punt guns and how they were once used in market hunting. It is available on Amazon.

I have never fired a punt gun, but I've seen several in person. Years ago, I was friends with a couple of former market gunners, but they've both since passed away. They told me stories of slowly paddling their sneakboats close to huge rafts of sleeping ducks where they would kill 150 birds or more with one shot from a punt gun. It had nothing to do with sportsmanship, mind you. They were making a living selling ducks to Northern Restaruants and punt guns were just tools of the trade.

AF

 

[mannySpaghetti]

You seen one you seen 'em all, but Glocks...I love 'em. My G21's chambered in .45 ACP and upgraded with just about everything but the barrel itself. Manufactured in 1996 and still shooting like a champ. I've been kicking around getting a better barrel for it, a Barstow, but haven't quite taken that $200 leap yet. Maybe that'll be a Christmas gift to myself.

The bottom pistole is my duty gun. Duty gun? Yup. I'm an armed guard for uncle sam and in this day and age of overwhelming technology they saw fit to give me a relic. Well, not necessarily, it's a Ruger GP100. Still though, why have a magazine when you can have a speedloader that takes twice the time to load and less than half the capacity of todays autos. Magazine? We don't need no stinking magazine! Hopefully we get outfitted with .40's soon.

 

[carebear]

Michener describes one in use in Chesapeake.

 

[Opas Coat]

The bottom pistole is my duty gun. Duty gun? Yup. I'm an armed guard for uncle sam and in this day and age of overwhelming technology they saw fit to give me a relic. Well, not necessarily, it's a Ruger GP100. Still though, why have a magazine when you can have a speedloader that takes twice the time to load and less than half the capacity of todays autos. Magazine? We don't need no stinking magazine! Hopefully we get outfitted with .40's soon.

I would be happy its not a double action cap and ball.

 

[avedwards]

Just a question by someone interested in (but not owning due to legal reasons where I live) firearms. On older revolvers I sometimes see a sort of keyring like piece of metal at the bottom of the handle. What functional purpose does this serve? I'd have thought that a firearm is kept in a holster, not attatched to a keyring.

 

[Diamondback]

It's sometimes a lanyard-loop for retention purposes--you see something similar on M1911-family autoloaders even into WWII production, and even on magazines for the WWI M1911s.

 

[avedwards]

How is it any good for retention purposes? Forgive me if I'm sounding stupid. :eusa_doh:

 

[Diamondback]

As in, "if you drop the darn thing while atop your horse (or anywhere for that matter), all you gotta do is grab the lanyard and reel 'er in". Kinda fits, since the M1911 was designed as the last of the "cavalry pistol" line... The idea is if you have a lanyard connecting the weapon to yourself, it can only get a certain distance from you without disconnecting the lanyard.

Nothing to forgive, the only stupid question is the one that goes un-asked, and everyone goes through the "novice" stage whenever taking up something new. Aside from the legal issues, we've all been where you are, I think it's safe to say... and there are no true "masters" in this field (at least not since Jeff Cooper's passing), only students with varying degrees of advancement.

 

[avedwards]

I understand now. Thanks. The legal issue is that firearm possession in the UK is illegal. Aside from joining a shooting range there's not much to be done, and there isn't one where I live.

 

[Diamondback]

Well, I'm sure that if you ever get across the Pond any number of folks would be happy to arrange a checkout... as for the other, that's a matter to take to Private Messaging.

 

[Papa Smurf]

My modest collection....

I have a Star Super B 9mm 1911 copy, an Astra .357 revolver, and a Uberti Cattleman .357 single action. They are below, in that order.

 

[mannySpaghetti]

I would be happy its not a double action cap and ball.

I'm glad it's not a cap and ball, but I can only fire in DA according to regs. If I had to employ this gun and cocked the hammer making it SA for the first shot and scored a hit on the bad guy, I'd go to freaking jail! Lol, believe that?! Government logic. What a wonderful thing!

 

[John in Covina]

A good friend of mine had the Star 9mm and it was a favorite of his.
fftopic:
A tale of woe!
His guns and gun safe was stolen out of his home in Rosemead CA while on a weekend trip with his wife about 6 years ago. The thieves broke in thru a window, backed a large pickup truck along the driveway next to the house. They hooked a chain going from the truck thru the window to his gun safe and ripped it out of the floor and wall. Then they loaded it into the truck and left. His various collections of cool stuff that was in the safe plus all his guns, custom made knives and emergency reserve cash went with them. Of course his neighbors who are close enough to hear you fart in the bathroom saw and heard nothing.

 

[WW2WaltUSMC]

Weapons Retention

As in, "if you drop the darn thing while atop your horse (or anywhere for that matter), all you gotta do is grab the lanyard and reel 'er in". Kinda fits, since the M1911 was designed as the last of the "cavalry pistol" line... The idea is if you have a lanyard connecting the weapon to yourself, it can only get a certain distance from you without disconnecting the lanyard.

Nothing to forgive, the only stupid question is the one that goes un-asked, and everyone goes through the "novice" stage whenever taking up something new. Aside from the legal issues, we've all been where you are, I think it's safe to say... and there are no true "masters" in this field (at least not since Jeff Cooper's passing), only students with varying degrees of advancement.

Our sidearms today still have this lanyard loop. Whenever I carry my M9 while escorting weapons or ordnance I have a coiled weapons retention lanyard clipped to the butt. Keeps hajji from getting a new toy if I lose positive control of the weapon or the holster comes unstrapped and it falls out, which I have had happen to me in a combat marksmanship drill.

 

[Gummy]

Slow Motion Impact

You may have seen this, it's pretty amazing. Maybe off topic but it's gun related.

It' a slow motion projectile impact.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfDoQwIAaXg

Hope you enjoy it, I did

Best regards,
Gummy

 

[Mr. Clark]

I have lanyard rings on all my serious working handguns. Not that there is much chance of me loosing one from horseback, but if you work around boats and water much, you will see the need to tie the weapon to your person. I once lost a $800 pair of Steiner binos in the Gulf of Mexico because I failed to properly use the neck strap, just stuffing them inside my jacket. I felt them drop out as soon as I hit the water. Fortunately my sidearm remained in it's holster. I now secure these things to my person. I still miss those Steiner's, they were some great optics.