Rebel Mens Wear and Accessories?

[Canuck Panda]

So I decided to give them a go and have ordered a custom Cossack jacket with a red silk lining. Because of my height (6ft 7in), the custom service is appealing and the price point is fair. I will do a review when I receive it in about a month. Let’s see what happens…

What is cost of the custom cossack jacket?

I've bought from Rebel before. It was a Taobao jacket being resold at higher prices. I didn't know any better then. But what he did is no different than any Western dealers selling Japanese jackets at a much higher market up either. Every business has to make money.

It has been a while and he has been upgrading his line, offering custom jackets using imported leathers, from CF Stead to Shinki and everything in between, and even stocking a small run of Rainbow Country and Y2 Kakishibu jackets. RC yes Kakishibu no.

The big question is how much is he charging for the custom jackets using imported leather?

 

[Leigh H]

What is cost of the custom cossack jacket?

I've bought from Rebel before. It was a Taobao jacket being resold at higher prices. I didn't know any better then. But what he did is no different than any Western dealers selling Japanese jackets at a much higher market up either. Every business has to make money.

It has been a while and he has been upgrading his line, offering custom jackets using imported leathers, from CF Stead to Shinki and everything in between, and even stocking a small run of Rainbow Country and Y2 Kakishibu jackets. RC yes Kakishibu no.

The big question is how much is he charging for the custom jackets using imported leather?

A lot of the sellers on Taoboa offer custom sizing for an extra fee. I’m guessing that’s what he’s doing.

The fact he’s anonymous says a lot.

 

[john corry]

Update on the Cossack….. he charged me nearly 1000 bucks! Although, I went for a silk lining and completely custom measurements etc. order placed January 16th. Communication was good at the beginning but has not replied to any messages over the last 2/3 weeks. Have notified PayPal. Let’s see what happens.

 

[john corry]

 

[TartuWolf]

@john corry
How did this sort out?
Was also asking about their custom jackets out of curiosity:

 

[Leigh H]

Update on the Cossack….. he charged me nearly 1000 bucks! Although, I went for a silk lining and completely custom measurements etc. order placed January 16th. Communication was good at the beginning but has not replied to any messages over the last 2/3 weeks. Have notified PayPal. Let’s see what happens.

So he ghosted you?

Screw this anonymous middle man, he’s not doing any QA or touching the product. He just places the order via Taobao.

 

[john corry]

Ok so I got the jacket, after I opened a dispute with PayPal!
The jacket is surprisingly nice and well constructed. The leather is good quality and obviously came from a decent tannery. The fit is very good.
Negative points - the horn buttons are in fact plastic. They are nice though.
The stitching is solid throughout with just a couple of small issues but nothing major. I can’t say the leather is a true rough out that I had in mind but it’s still a premium leather.

 

[TartuWolf]

@john corry
So did you do a chargeback with Paypal? Got both the jacket and your money back? Or did the seller start responding to you only after you created the PayPal dispute?

 

[john corry]

@john corry
So did you do a chargeback with Paypal? Got both the jacket and your money back? Or did the seller start responding to you only after you created the PayPal dispute?

No, I cancelled the dispute once the jacket arrived - 5 days later!

 

[Marc mndt]

Looks a lot like this $113 Taobao jacket.

 

[john corry]

It looks a LOT like it. Ah well. I’ve never used Taobao. Next time I will.
But, I’m 6ft 7 and the most important aspect was always the fit. I’m not sure if Taobao does custom sizing?

 

[Will Zach]

It looks a LOT like it. Ah well. I’ve never used Taobao. Next time I will.
But, I’m 6ft 7 and the most important aspect was always the fit. I’m not sure if Taobao does custom sizing?

Taobao is just a marketplace.

 

[TartuWolf]

@john corry "I’m not sure if Taobao does custom sizing?"

A lot of the sellers on Taobao offer custom sizing for an extra fee. I’m guessing that’s what he’s doing.

But in general we are just guessing. Anyway, this seller seems shady for sure, even though he does seems to be reselling jackets in some awesome leathers. Especially the naked kudu.

 

[Leigh H]

@john corry "I’m not sure if Taobao does custom sizing?"

But in general we are just guessing. Anyway, this seller seems shady for sure, even though he does seems to be reselling jackets in some awesome leathers. Especially the naked kudu.

Taobao items are directly purchased from the makers/manufacturers, they will do anything you ask from them, they just want the sale, but it’s more money obviously. You just direct message your requirements.

They only sell to Chinese so you need to do the communication & purchase through a proxy like Superbuy.

 

[john corry]

Taobao items are directly purchased from the makers/manufacturers, they will do anything you ask from them, they just want the sale, but it’s more money obviously. You just direct message your requirements.

They only sell to Chinese so you need to do the communication & purchase through a proxy like Superbuy.

Thanks for the info. It’s hard to navigate the website, obviously. Cheers

 

[Canuck Panda]

Ok so I got the jacket, after I opened a dispute with PayPal!
The jacket is surprisingly nice and well constructed. The leather is good quality and obviously came from a decent tannery. The fit is very good.
Negative points - the horn buttons are in fact plastic. They are nice though.
The stitching is solid throughout with just a couple of small issues but nothing major. I can’t say the leather is a true rough out that I had in mind but it’s still a premium leather.

Chances are the gusset triangle may not be lined. If this is the case you can see if there's grain side on the reverse side of this panel. If there's grain on the reverse side then its a rough out. If the reverse side is also suede then talk to your seller.

FWIW I don't think yours is a Taobao jacket. They only stock size up to Chinese size 44 or 46 and no Tall sizes. With your height you'd need Tall sizes. It could be made in the same factory, but separate from the Taobao run. Thats what it means to have MTM at those places.

If you do find something on Taobao that you like, which I doubt they will fit because of your height, it's best to use Aliexpress to make the purchase. It's about 25% more than the Taobao price but you get English service and free shipping and return, a much better deal for non China residents.

Overall I find my Made in China jackets are quite good. But when they start using name brand leather the prices jump up significantly and the incentive is a lot less. Currently a Shinki/Horween jacket MTM is about USD 1200 FOB Hong Kong, more if more customization. Not a lot of incentive, especially when resale is factored in.

 

[Leigh H]

Thanks for the info. It’s hard to navigate the website, obviously. Cheers

Yeah it’s not easy to browse and it can feel intimidating at first, there are step by step guides online showing how to setting up an account, what button to click so you can gain access and to browse the app. Then once you find what you like you can share the link with the proxy seller to make an order, or reach out for a custom order for your size.

 

[john corry]

Chances are the gusset triangle may not be lined. If this is the case you can see if there's grain side on the reverse side of this panel. If there's grain on the reverse side then its a rough out. If the reverse side is also suede then talk to your seller.
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FWIW I don't think yours is a Taobao jacket. They only stock size up to Chinese size 44 or 46 and no Tall sizes. With your height you'd need Tall sizes. It could be made in the same factory, but separate from the Taobao run. Thats what it means to have MTM at those places.

If you do find something on Taobao that you like, which I doubt they will fit because of your height, it's best to use Aliexpress to make the purchase. It's about 25% more than the Taobao price but you get English service and free shipping and return, a much better deal for non China residents.

Overall I find my Made in China jackets are quite good. But when they start using name brand leather the prices jump up significantly and the incentive is a lot less. Currently a Shinki/Horween jacket MTM is about USD 1200 FOB Hong Kong, more if more customization. Not a lot of incentive, especially when resale is factored in.

Thanks - I had a quick look and can’t see right inside due to the lining but the leather does seem to be the same on both sides

 

[Marc mndt]

Thanks - I had a quick look and can’t see right inside due to the lining but the leather does seem to be the same on both sides

Rough out should look like this on the reverse size. Otherwise it's (split) suede.

Pic from rebels Instagram.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CncQlsuPo9h/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Of it's rough out you ordered you could file a claim.

 

[john corry]

Yeah, I definitely ordered rough out. Cheeky guy, will message him now