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That label was used in coats from WWII up until about 1947. If your daughter's coat has 8 buttons showing on the front, it is a WWII peacoat. If it has 6 buttons showing, it is post WWII, about 1946 or 1947.View attachment 204933
Thank you Peacoat, i couldn’t agree more about the CG wool finish. It’s nicer than many hats i’ve seen.
The daughter’s era is close, i believe, but not a CG. It appears equal if not identical to both my CGs. All 3 exceptional. We are both very happy with them.
The pic is of the daughter’s label.
Be well. Bowen
A few years ago I had both a '49 and a WWII Coast Guard coat. Both were a tinch small so I resold them on eBay. Both of those coats were exceptional. The wool was just beautiful. What size is your newly acquired '49? If it is a size 46 that is very rare for a '49 coat.View attachment 204871 View attachment 204872 View attachment 204873 Greetings All:
Today....was wearing this so i thought i’d pop it in here. Coast Guard pea coat that is a marvelous wool. I was so impressed i bought another one for me then the Navy version for my Daughter. Gave me great joy to see her reaction when i gave it to her and told her how sought after this issue was. Hell, she goo goo’d and gaa gaa’d more than when i gave her a vintage Langlitz cross zip. Smart kid!! Lol
Be well. Bowen
A few years ago I had both a '49 and a WWII Coast Guard coat. Both were a tinch small so I resold them on eBay. Both of those coats were exceptional. The wool was just beautiful. What size is your newly acquired '49? If it is a size 46 that is very rare for a '49 coat.
Yes, this is a genuine US Navy peacoat. The chest size is actually a 42 and not the labeled size of 40. A very few just don't have the proper size on the label, as member @Cooperson found out and brought it to my attention. You can move the buttons about an inch without altering the appearance of the coat. If you have the sleeves shortened, please ask the tailor to save the excess material inside the cuff if possible. That way if someone with long arms should buy the jacket in the future, the sleeves can be let out.So I found this forum/thread very late last night after a Google search of "Modern Garments, Inc". I then proceeded to fall into a wormhole of many years of posts, which held more info about peacoats than I ever imagined was a thing. I've had this peacoat in my possession for nearly 10 years now, handed down from a friend who purchased from a thrift shop, but was too big for him. I've always wondered the age and if it was an authentic USN coat due to the only tag inside:
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Now, utilizing the info on this forum, and according to this tag, the coat should be a 1975 40L Kersey coat. The ptp measurement however, is 22.5", so possibly it is mislabeled? I'm usually a 44R in a blazer/overcoat but surprisingly, I can fit myself into this '40L' peacoat although it is very snug in the chest with just a tshirt underneath. However, if I wear a sweater of any sort of thickness, I cannot button the coat but the shoulders still fit perfectly. I believe it to be a genuine Long coat, as the sleeves are much too long for me (I'm 5'9") but still wearable and the overall coat length measures 33"(?) and hits me about mid-thigh. I would describe the overall fit as quite "slim tailored", which I rather enjoy. As you can see, it has the black plastic buttons, but they've definitely been replaced/resown (poorly) through the liner and the bottom two buttons are sown through the pockets. Pocket bags are white and one is ripped open along the entire bottom. Coat is very dark blue, almost black. The liner stitching has come undone in a couple of places and the collar shows some wear (dirt?) along it's top fold but otherwise, for a 45 year old coat, it's in great condition, seems to be very high quality wool and has garnered many a compliment.
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Due to the sizing difference, I still have some doubts as to the authenticity of this being an actual Kersey coat and whether or not I should invest some money into bringing it fully back to life? I'd like to dry clean it, get the necessary stitching redone on the liner and pocket, shorten the sleeves, re position the buttons to allow a bit more room and although it is not period correct, I'd like to change the buttons to anchor buttons as I prefer the aesthetic. Also, should all of the buttons be moved to maintain the correct distances or just the one side? Any input or comments from the community would be greatly appreciated, thanks!
I am 5’9” as well and needed a short to fit properly on the length.So I found this forum/thread very late last night after a Google search of "Modern Garments, Inc". I then proceeded to fall into a wormhole of many years of posts, which held more info about peacoats than I ever imagined was a thing. I've had this peacoat in my possession for nearly 10 years now, handed down from a friend who purchased from a thrift shop, but was too big for him. I've always wondered the age and if it was an authentic USN coat due to the only tag inside:
View attachment 205073
Now, utilizing the info on this forum, and according to this tag, the coat should be a 1975 40L Kersey coat. The ptp measurement however, is 22.5", so possibly it is mislabeled? I'm usually a 44R in a blazer/overcoat but surprisingly, I can fit myself into this '40L' peacoat although it is very snug in the chest with just a tshirt underneath. However, if I wear a sweater of any sort of thickness, I cannot button the coat but the shoulders still fit perfectly. I believe it to be a genuine Long coat, as the sleeves are much too long for me (I'm 5'9") but still wearable and the overall coat length measures 33"(?) and hits me about mid-thigh. I would describe the overall fit as quite "slim tailored", which I rather enjoy. As you can see, it has the black plastic buttons, but they've definitely been replaced/resown (poorly) through the liner and the bottom two buttons are sown through the pockets. Pocket bags are white and one is ripped open along the entire bottom. Coat is very dark blue, almost black. The liner stitching has come undone in a couple of places and the collar shows some wear (dirt?) along it's top fold but otherwise, for a 45 year old coat, it's in great condition, seems to be very high quality wool and has garnered many a compliment.
View attachment 205075
Due to the sizing difference, I still have some doubts as to the authenticity of this being an actual Kersey coat and whether or not I should invest some money into bringing it fully back to life? I'd like to dry clean it, get the necessary stitching redone on the liner and pocket, shorten the sleeves, re position the buttons to allow a bit more room and although it is not period correct, I'd like to change the buttons to anchor buttons as I prefer the aesthetic. Also, should all of the buttons be moved to maintain the correct distances or just the one side? Any input or comments from the community would be greatly appreciated, thanks!
Yes, this is a genuine US Navy peacoat. The chest size is actually a 42 and not the labeled size of 40. A very few just don't have the proper size on the label, as member @Cooperson found out and brought it to my attention. You can move the buttons about an inch without altering the appearance of the coat. If you have the sleeves shortened, please ask the tailor to save the excess material inside the cuff if possible. That way if someone with long arms should buy the jacket in the future, the sleeves can be let out.
I would, however, suggest that you not have the coat altered, but to sell it and get one that fits you properly. If the coat hits you mid thigh, that is much too long. The hem of the coat should end about an inch below your butt. A long size is just too much for you. You just need to get a peacoat that properly fits you. They aren't that expensive, and it will now be easy to get a properly fitted coat.
With an actual 44" chest, you can wear a size 42 for a trim fit and no sweater underneath. A size 44 will be a bit loose without a sweater, but can be layered with a sweater or a vest.
It sounds as if you have read my dating guide, but if you have not, the link is below.
Welcome to the Lounge.
https://www.thefedoralounge.com/thr...-dating-the-united-states-navy-peacoat.72058/
Welcome to the lounge Jerry. You got one of the good ones imho. It appears to be pristine and the history of it makes it all the more sweet. Most excellent. Fit pics would be nice.Hello everyone, first time posting here but I've been scouring these forums for a while, learning all I could about the mighty USN Peacoat LOL My quest originally began when a girlfriend gave me a cheapo crappy Old Navy knockoff peacoat, but I didn't know any better at the time and loved it. Even a piece of cheap Chinese or Vietnamese-made junk like that was still warm and got lots of comments and compliments, especially from old vets who didn't realize it was just a crappy replica. I wore it basically to death even so, and eventually donated it to the local Mission, so hopefully it's still keeping somebody warm.
Ever since I got rid of it 10+ years ago tho, I've wanted to get a "real" peacoat. A couple of years ago I discovered Sterlingwear was the current contract supplier to the Navy, but the cost of a new one from them ($300+!!) made me procrastinate getting one until a few months ago, when I learned that they are essentially out of business now anyway. So I took to the web and wound up accidentally educating myself regarding all things Kersey and Melton as I looked for a suitable specimen, hitting the information mother-lode when I found TFL and all you nice folks. It didn't take long poring over the conversations here before I came to the inevitable conclusion that a new Sterlingwear or a Schott wasn't what I wanted anyway, and so the eBay and Etsy scouring began lol
Finally today, I managed to seal the deal on what I believe is a '49 Kersey 42R coat in primo shape! $180 plus WA state sales tax (which I haaaaaate!) But even still, I think I got a pretty damned good deal. And the cherry on top - I bought it from the daughter of the original sailor that it was first issued to!
Here's the pix from the eBay listing - can you guys confirm this is the '49 tag? View attachment 212715 View attachment 212716 View attachment 212718 View attachment 212719 View attachment 212720 View attachment 212721
I definitely will as soon as that gem shows up at my door! LOLWelcome to the lounge Jerry. You got one of the good ones imho. It appears to be pristine and the history of it makes it all the more sweet. Most excellent. Fit pics would be nice.
Be well. Bowen
Thanks PC. Is the '49 the only year with the fouled-anchors/Clothing Depot tag?Yes, that is a 1949 coat. Looks as thought it had little wear during its career. Congratulations on a good score.
As you knew the proper date of your tag, you have probably already read my dating guide. But as you didn't mention it in your post, here it is:
https://www.thefedoralounge.com/thr...-dating-the-united-states-navy-peacoat.72058/
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@Birddog1911 There are a couple of members here who would like to have your size 46 peacoat. Hopefully, one will see your post and contact you.