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Question on Schott Perfecto

MSC100

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Has anyone ever seen the Schott Perfecto with a black Schott label sewn outside of the coin pocket? I dont recall ever seeing this ???
 

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jeo

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Yes. That ticket was used on jackets from 1982-1984. Here’s one I used to own and one I currently own.

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MSC100

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Yes. That ticket was used on jackets from 1982-1984. Here’s one I used to own and one I currently own.

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Thanks Jeo, whats your exerience with the quality of the jacket. Looks like yours has Schott snaps as well.
Yes. That ticket was used on jackets from 1982-1984. Here’s one I used to own and one I currently own.

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What's your opinion of the snap placement on the collars ? They appear kind of random being so close and off center.
 

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jeo

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Thanks Jeo, whats your exerience with the quality of the jacket. Looks like yours has Schott snaps as well.

The first one is earlier and has smooth snaps and mitre buckle. Second one has the Schott “bullet” snaps and the later buckle. Yours is a mixture.

The quality and the sizing varies wildly. These both are size 36 and with only a year or two apart one fits like a true 36 and one fits like a small 34…go figure.

What's your opinion of the snap placement on the collars ? They appear kind of random being so close and off center.

Yeah, looks like this one was more sloppily put together (at least the snaps)

Anything after around 1980 up to around mid 2000’s is a crapshoot with Schott. Way too many inconsistencies with leather, fit and without having it in hand, it’s going to be difficult to tell if it’s a 118 or a 618.
 

MSC100

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Thanks for the insight on that. I can only afford to buy one jacket and Im trying to make the best decision on a Perfecto that is vintage but in good repair and not modified. I guess the factory (anomaly) of the snap placement on this one is authentic at least, if not too perfect LOL :)
 

jeo

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Wasn't this done only on the jackets for the European distributors?
I remember someone postulating that once on here before but never backed it up. If I remember correctly it was after Gail passed away so I could never confirm and I’ve never heard that anywhere else.
 
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I remember someone postulating that once on here before but never backed it up. If I remember correctly it was after Gail passed away so I could never confirm and I’ve never heard that anywhere else.

Aye, I may recall Gail mentioning this plus I've only seen these pocket labels on Perfectos on Vinted but... I don't really know.
 

Manolito

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I remeber seeing a 1984 picture of the american director David Lynch wearing a Schott Flight Jacket with an exterior tag like this one (on the set of "Dune" in Mexico). So I suppose these it was also availabe in Noth America ?
 
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No , but they did use it - so buyer beware

No, I mean, the USA made jackets made exclusively for France. There's nothing wrong with these jackets, they only have minute variations. One batch of the beltless Perfecto exclusive to EU had a lining pocket made from leather which is of course an improvement. As long as there's a "Made in USA" size tag, you good.
 

Bluechel

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Wasn't this done only on the jackets for the European distributors?
No, it was most US jackets for those years, many other models too. I have read it over and over from the old Gail Schott question chain, and I have four or five as well.
 
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No, it was most US jackets for those years, many other models too. I have read it over and over from the old Gail Schott question chain, and I have four or five as well.

I learned something new but honestly, I only ever saw these first on the Perfectos for Europe. But good to know, either way.
 

Bluechel

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I learned something new but honestly, I only ever saw these first on the Perfectos for Europe. But good to know, either way.
And to be even more exact, it was only two years….1983 and 1984. This is alway an interesting topic for those that have the “tab”, an ability to know your jacket is ”dated” exactly from one of those two years, but also know it is not generally considered to be “better”. The quality from then is very random.
 

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