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q for panama hat aficionados --

Richard Warren

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Traditionally one wears a black straw hat when playing golf with an arch-villain. This is also one of the few occasions in which etiquette allows one to cheat.
 

ccajackson

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I don't have colored panamas, but I do wear black and brown straws. The color on straw makes no real difference in terms of heat, though white and natural are regarded as more "summery." I find that black straw is very useful with grays, blues, black, and excellent with jeans. Sometimes a bright white hat with a black ribbon is just not what you want to wear. [huh]

For example;

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Great hat - but even greater shirt! I love that design!

Cheers,

C-C
 

Rick Blaine

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Now THAT is what I'm talkin' about!

I don't have colored panamas, but I do wear black and brown straws. The color on straw makes no real difference in terms of heat, though white and natural are regarded as more "summery." I find that black straw is very useful with grays, blues, black, and excellent with jeans. Sometimes a bright white hat with a black ribbon is just not what you want to wear. [huh]

For example;

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Good on ya', mate. That works like Ham & Cheese, like Martin & Lewis. And yeah, killer-diller shirt.
 

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In Bekal, Campeche, México, there are hat woven there, fine woven, people called also Jipi Japa straw, crushables and white. There are wheat straw, coconut palm straw hats, in Puebla, Oaxaca, Veracruz, Guanajuato, Hidalgo y Michoacán, fine straws and better woven.:eusa_clap :eusa_clap :eusa_clap

Por ejemplo? worthlesswithoutpics
 

1961MJS

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Hi

Wearing a black (cold weather color) Straw (warm weather material) hat seems counter intuitive. I don't think I'll ever have a black Panama, but a darker tan or brown might be in the cards. Scout Camp, in the forest raining tics with Lyme Disease.

later
 

Lefty

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Side stepping the question of what constitutes a "genuine panama" hat I can answer this way.

For me personally, never. I enjoy the warm and variable color and texture of the natural fiber and have no use for any other color. I don't even like it when the straw is bleached overly white.

+1. I like mah milans yella, mah panamas creamy, and mah beavers silver bellay.
 

BanjoMerlin

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One would wear a dark colored straw whenever a dark colored felt hat would be appropriate if it wasn't so d(*&n HOT!

If you don't have a dark colored straw you would wear your dark colored lightweight felt.

A funeral comes to mind. And at night if you don't want to be the sniper's primary target.
 

EggHead

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This reminds me of another eternal question - "Is brandy a cognac? Or the true cognac must be grown and distilled in Cognac, France?"
BTW, I usually drink the one that comes from France, but I was lucky to own a bottle of 50yr old brandy from Argentina - still have fond memories!
 

Rick Blaine

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Recent aquisition : Brown Straw Caldo c. 1950

Another example of a golden (or Silver) era Panama Caldo w/ deep a rich brown color w/o any signs of degradation of the straw- d@mn near pristine in fact.
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I'll slap a pug or a (more modern) leather strop on this bad boy & it'll be ready for the NEXT 50 yrs., by gum! Makes me wish for the return of warm weather... almost.
:D
 

DAJE

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Rumor has it that black bodies absorb more radiation.

It's not a rumour, it's basic science.

Darker colours absorb more light, lighter colours reflect it. The energy in absorbed light is converted to heat, therefore a light coloured hat is cooler than a dark coloured hat.

Light-coloured clothing in sunny weather isn't a meaningless tradition: people observed that light colours reflect more heat long before anyone figured out the science behind it.

So, while a black straw hat might be appropriate at night, it's counter-productive on a hot sunny day.
 

Duper

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Does anyone know where I can inquire online or order one of these Jipi Japa straw hats from Mexico? I saw a show "How it is Made" a few weeks back and I have read a bit about them. I would like a Panama style fedora in a different material.

"In Bekal, Campeche, México, there are hat woven there, fine woven, people called also Jipi Japa straw, crushables and white."

Thanks!
 

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