Oh, man, that is just all KINDS of spiff!!!
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StoryPNW
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Thank you sir!
Pellie
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Received my first Swiss hat. Super Botta. Excellent hand on the felt. No label, so don't know the age exactly. Maybe @mayserwegener does know more about this hat? Needs a bit steam but in great condition.
Edit: reshaped it a littlebit, so it is less tapered.
Edit: reshaped it a littlebit, so it is less tapered.
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The Shoe
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Striking liner colour.
Pellie
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Yes i like it, eventough the grey sweatband!!
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Stetson ******* - Medium Brown
Ultra Thin Lightweight Felt
Approx 6 inch open crown - 4 3/4 as shaped
2 1/2 inch brim with single row stitching
7/8 Grosgrain Ribbon
Unlined with diamond shaped vents
A member of one of the Facebook hat groups posted about this Stetson ******* for sale on Etsy. Try as i might… I could not resist. It looked a bit of a floppy mess.. but I could definitely see the diamond in the rough. And speaking of diamonds…. I combed through thirty three pages (and nearly 20 years of posts) of the *******s on Parade thread to find one with the diamond vents… finally found one posted by Brent @deadlyhandsome just last year. I did see a couple with the snowflake vents in the roof.. like Eric’s @Short Balding Guy gorgeous Air Light *******. This one seems to be of similar vintage to Brent’s.. I would guess Mid 1950s. One interesting note about the vent holes… the placement is somewhat asymmetrical. With the bow side placed almost center while the other side is slightly further back to the rear. I don’t know if that is for a purpose or just how it ended up.
While all the evidence of sweat markings and tags point to a 1950s hat. The felt on this is incredibly thin and lightweight. The kind of felt you might find on a 30s or 40s hat. The hat is unlined…. Though I don’t know for sure if it came that way… a liner would kind of defeat the purpose of the vents. I don’t see any evidence of any type of tip logo… But I don’t think Brent’s hat had one either. Of my three Stetson ******* hats one black and one blue/grey… this one has the most “*******” vibe…. Considering its dimensions and super light weight felt. I only gave it a real good brushing…. Some time in the sun…. And an accidental drenching from an instant downpour while it was out there… but it shaped up quite well. It could probably use a bit of steam… however I actually preferred its super soft somewhat zaftig appearance as is… so I think I’ll hold off on that. I do think I prefer it with its brim curled up just a bit.
sensy
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Custom from Kimmo Halme. I wanted some fun details that might not be to everyone's taste, but I love it.
Thundercolt
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My new favorite summer hat! The JAXON Cuenca Panama Straw Gambler.
This is a “Panama Canal” style hat made in Ecuador. (Panama hats have never been made in Panama). Most Ecuadorian families that weave these hats live in the rural regions of Cuenca and are part of a “weaving family” and have been for many generations. Each genuine Panama hat is handwoven from Paja Toquilla, a natural straw. The finer the weave, the more supple and flexible the hat will be.
The Panama Canal construction workers used Ecuadorian Hats as protection from the harsh sun. The name “Panama Hat” was introduced in 1906, when photos of President Roosevelt were published in the press, while he was overseeing construction of the Panama Canal.
This is not to be confused with the marketing term “Shantung Panama,” which are typically Cowboy style hats that are actually made out of a high-performance paper, which is rolled into a yarn, to imitate straw and then lacquered to hold their shape and make them water resistant.
I personally think of this hat as a “live” hat, because I can mist it with water and renew the natural pliability of the Toquilla straw fibers. I also easily changed the shape of the hat from standard round to extra-long oval. I started by misting the hat inside and out, then placing foam shims under the hat band, on both the front and back, before gently pulling the hat down on my head and wearing it until completely dry. Then I removed the foam shims and now I have a hat that fits perfectly, plus it is extremely light weight and very comfortable to wear all day long.
After wearing stiff, Shantung straw hats for years, I don’t think I will ever find a better summer hat than a genuine Toquilla, Panama hat. I’m aware that there is a whole world of higher quality Paja Toquilla Panama hats out there, but this one comfortably fits my head, and my wallet.
This is a “Panama Canal” style hat made in Ecuador. (Panama hats have never been made in Panama). Most Ecuadorian families that weave these hats live in the rural regions of Cuenca and are part of a “weaving family” and have been for many generations. Each genuine Panama hat is handwoven from Paja Toquilla, a natural straw. The finer the weave, the more supple and flexible the hat will be.
The Panama Canal construction workers used Ecuadorian Hats as protection from the harsh sun. The name “Panama Hat” was introduced in 1906, when photos of President Roosevelt were published in the press, while he was overseeing construction of the Panama Canal.
This is not to be confused with the marketing term “Shantung Panama,” which are typically Cowboy style hats that are actually made out of a high-performance paper, which is rolled into a yarn, to imitate straw and then lacquered to hold their shape and make them water resistant.
I personally think of this hat as a “live” hat, because I can mist it with water and renew the natural pliability of the Toquilla straw fibers. I also easily changed the shape of the hat from standard round to extra-long oval. I started by misting the hat inside and out, then placing foam shims under the hat band, on both the front and back, before gently pulling the hat down on my head and wearing it until completely dry. Then I removed the foam shims and now I have a hat that fits perfectly, plus it is extremely light weight and very comfortable to wear all day long.
After wearing stiff, Shantung straw hats for years, I don’t think I will ever find a better summer hat than a genuine Toquilla, Panama hat. I’m aware that there is a whole world of higher quality Paja Toquilla Panama hats out there, but this one comfortably fits my head, and my wallet.
Picked up a few I haven't posted yet. Let's start with this one.
Battersby first quality bowler. Size 56 (I think) with the brim at 5,5cm and the crown at 13cm. This hat has a had a tough life it seems and has been mucked about with. The brim binding is is not original as it is petersham ribbon and done poorly likely even glued (!). The sweatband is reeded on both sides with the reed sticking through in several places. It has been reattached at some time it seems. The liner has been glued in and could be a replacement. The hat weighs 164 grams and is probably thirties. It deserved better, but what can you do?
Battersby first quality bowler. Size 56 (I think) with the brim at 5,5cm and the crown at 13cm. This hat has a had a tough life it seems and has been mucked about with. The brim binding is is not original as it is petersham ribbon and done poorly likely even glued (!). The sweatband is reeded on both sides with the reed sticking through in several places. It has been reattached at some time it seems. The liner has been glued in and could be a replacement. The hat weighs 164 grams and is probably thirties. It deserved better, but what can you do?
The second hat from the same seller was blissfully left alone but it was certainly well loved.
Prima Qualität tophat in a size 56 with the brim at 5cm and the crown at a low 12,5cm. Weighs 201 grams. Some wear on the underside of the brim which was done with grosgrain and not silk pluche and also some wear alon the rim on the top of the crown. I got this along with the Battersby bowler at a low price and it didn't fit me, even though it is my size.
So I decided to bake it! Steve @Steve1857 has had some hands on experience with this and it hasn't scarred him for life, so I decided this was the candidate. Pre-heated the oven at 80 degrees Celsius and then placed the hat inside on a cloth towel. Baked it for another 6 minutes at the same tempereature. When I took it out it was perfectly moldable for about a minute or so. Placed it on my head and shaped it (take care with controlling the brim). Worked like a charm and it now fits me like a custom.
Prima Qualität tophat in a size 56 with the brim at 5cm and the crown at a low 12,5cm. Weighs 201 grams. Some wear on the underside of the brim which was done with grosgrain and not silk pluche and also some wear alon the rim on the top of the crown. I got this along with the Battersby bowler at a low price and it didn't fit me, even though it is my size.
So I decided to bake it! Steve @Steve1857 has had some hands on experience with this and it hasn't scarred him for life, so I decided this was the candidate. Pre-heated the oven at 80 degrees Celsius and then placed the hat inside on a cloth towel. Baked it for another 6 minutes at the same tempereature. When I took it out it was perfectly moldable for about a minute or so. Placed it on my head and shaped it (take care with controlling the brim). Worked like a charm and it now fits me like a custom.
Final one. Picked this one up in Tours, France, while on vacation there. Had a few dings and bumps, but nothing that couldn't be easily fixed.
JB Zephyr bowler in a size 56. Brim at 5cm and the crown at 13 cm. It is indeed "zephyr" in weight as it only weighs 103 grams. Not entirely sure about the maker though. The JB Zephyr points toward Jean Bourrel, but the size label has the letters BSF or SBF on it, which doesn't ring a bell. Sold by Eugene Butscher of La Rochelle.
JB Zephyr bowler in a size 56. Brim at 5cm and the crown at 13 cm. It is indeed "zephyr" in weight as it only weighs 103 grams. Not entirely sure about the maker though. The JB Zephyr points toward Jean Bourrel, but the size label has the letters BSF or SBF on it, which doesn't ring a bell. Sold by Eugene Butscher of La Rochelle.
Thundercolt
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This is the “Thundercolt revision” of The Dakota from Agnoulita Hat Company.
To start with; Agnoulita Hats runs a great company and was a pleasure to deal with them. They have an amazing website that shows the hats from multiple angles and gives all the dimensions (I wish other companies did that!). They are upfront about their pricing and delivery schedule and ordering online was easy, plus my hat arrived 2 weeks ahead of time.
The Dakota is what I would call a Western Fedora. It is made from rabbit felt that is more on par with a Fedora weight, than a Western weight, so it’s lighter and more comfortable to wear throughout the day. The felt and hat band colors shown on the website were exactly what I received. I was also kept up-to-date on the location of the hat during the shipping and clearing customs process. The quality of this hat is well above the price I paid and I am quite pleased with my new Agnoulita Hat!
As soon as I received it, I knew I had to start about restyling it to match my character. It came with a Cattleman’s crease and turned up brim, neither fit my style. I added some profile to the sides and dropped down the front of the brim. Then I went to town on that crease, turning it into more of an Arena style crease. Now it looks like MY hat :>)
To start with; Agnoulita Hats runs a great company and was a pleasure to deal with them. They have an amazing website that shows the hats from multiple angles and gives all the dimensions (I wish other companies did that!). They are upfront about their pricing and delivery schedule and ordering online was easy, plus my hat arrived 2 weeks ahead of time.
The Dakota is what I would call a Western Fedora. It is made from rabbit felt that is more on par with a Fedora weight, than a Western weight, so it’s lighter and more comfortable to wear throughout the day. The felt and hat band colors shown on the website were exactly what I received. I was also kept up-to-date on the location of the hat during the shipping and clearing customs process. The quality of this hat is well above the price I paid and I am quite pleased with my new Agnoulita Hat!
As soon as I received it, I knew I had to start about restyling it to match my character. It came with a Cattleman’s crease and turned up brim, neither fit my style. I added some profile to the sides and dropped down the front of the brim. Then I went to town on that crease, turning it into more of an Arena style crease. Now it looks like MY hat :>)
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Excellent work on that brim! I tend to do the same with my curled brims.
Gently and easily is definitely the right working method, Stefan. Glad to hear you finally found a candidate for the hat bake experiment.
Pellie
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Borsalino with shark gills in a great condition. Color Opale and Ecosti. Late '50's, early '60's i think. Super light weighted and very mallable felt.
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Thanks, Steve. I knew it should work, but I was still surprised how well it actually did.
Excellent find, Marcel and a great looking hat.
StoryPNW
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Just received my Stetson No. 1 Quality. I took the brush and some steam to it and got it into shape. It came with a cattleman crease and the brim was a little wonky.
I put in a center crease with some pinches and straightened out the brim a little. I like it much better this way.
I put in a center crease with some pinches and straightened out the brim a little. I like it much better this way.
RickP
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Mailman delivered another Champ Featherweight today.. My old one is more of an darker olive/ brown felt and olive ribbon... this ones is a lighter actual brown and brown ribbons. ( I was worried that they would turn out to be the same color....I didnt really need duplicates with my limited wall space lol) Now I have two to choose from. Should make a more complementary match some of the shirts.
Was well packaged and in really nice shape but needs just a bit of tickling on the stretcher and some work on a couple wavy brim spots. Im a big fan of the Featherweights
Was well packaged and in really nice shape but needs just a bit of tickling on the stretcher and some work on a couple wavy brim spots. Im a big fan of the Featherweights
TimmyV
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Nice hats...BOTH of 'em !!
