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VoodooSan

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I'm sure it is possible, Mark, and I don't doubt it.

I know the barcode was invented and used as early as the 40s and 50s, but I've always thought a hat with such a label was much more modern than the 70s or 80s.

Again, I'm not necessarily questioning the date of the hat, but more my ignorance of such a label.

I know Reggie @Dlaniger has many of these Stetsons with such labels. Hoping he amongst others can enlighten my ignorance.
Me too!
 

RickP

Practically Family
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My nice mailman dropped off a new box today... I needed a new rugged wear outdoor hat and found a pre owned LLBean / Stetson -Moose River in silverbelly. Its beautifully soft ( definitely not "cowboy hat felt"). Pretty decent condition. Can anyone identify from the pics about its age? Im guessing late 70's early 80s?.

It was a decent cost and I figure it was meant to be as my Chocolate Labs is named Moose lol View attachment 612257 View attachment 612258 View attachment 612259 View attachment 612260 View attachment 612261
Mystery solved... pulled the liner out so I could do some cleaning, and I found a little skinny tag under the sweatband that had a date of 09/06/06 on it. not as old as I thought, but thats fine... I can wear it like I stole it now with no fear of hurting value!!
 

Steve1857

I'll Lock Up
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Mystery solved... pulled the liner out so I could do some cleaning, and I found a little skinny tag under the sweatband that had a date of 09/06/06 on it. not as old as I thought, but thats fine... I can wear it like I stole it now with no fear of hurting value!!
Can we see a photo of that tag?
 

RickP

Practically Family
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the date tag (09/13/06) was actually stuck to the felt of the crown under the bigger model tag. Sad note was that I did find a tear in the sweatband that was taped together. Little dissappointed that the sweat is actually a really really thin piece of leather like material laminated on some kind of backing material. Since this was intended as a walk around in the weather hat, Ill use it as- is for a bit, but may just go ahead and cut out the factory sweat and replace it with a nice leather one I had made (Ive got a couple new ones laying around in the parts bin just for times like this). Liner looks good, and felt cleaned up nicely. Have found a couple moth nibbles right on the edge of the brim, so Im thinking this may be just the hat to do a ribbon binding on the edge.... All in all a fun little cheap hat that will let me personalize it a bit
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CRH

Call Me a Cab
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The Lost Cowboy

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Well, I bought my first hat lemon. I mean, I’ve bought hats in worse condition, but I knew it and paid less for them.

I’m fine with this - everything is in workable order, I just have to put it back together.
Mid-1950s (I think) Stetson Twenty-Five. No, not stripped for parts.

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Stars on liner and sweat, but the liner has a mid-50s-esque plastic tip.
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Hat box without lid (said so in the fine print of the listing, I just didn’t read it closely enough):
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This is about as good of a job as I’ll do getting the pork pie crease out of the crown:
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The liner stinks like sweaty sneakers. Can anyone tell me what I can use to clean it?
 

RickP

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Well, I bought my first hat lemon. I mean, I’ve bought hats in worse condition, but I knew it and paid less for them.

I’m fine with this - everything is in workable order, I just have to put it back together.
Mid-1950s (I think) Stetson Twenty-Five. No, not stripped for parts.

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Stars on liner and sweat, but the liner has a mid-50s-esque plastic tip.
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Hat box without lid (said so in the fine print of the listing, I just didn’t read it closely enough):
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This is about as good of a job as I’ll do getting the pork pie crease out of the crown:
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The liner stinks like sweaty sneakers. Can anyone tell me what I can use to clean it?
Find someone who has a So-Clean CPAP cleaning machine... Its essentially an ozone generator... Drop the liner in the bin and run it though a few cycles
 

RickP

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Find someone who has a So-Clean CPAP cleaning machine... Its essentially an ozone generator... Drop the liner in the bin and run it though a few cycles
Just make sure to dump the water in the resevoir before running... Its normally a fairly dry cycle even with the water resevoir, but my thinking is that the drier the process the better
 

Mighty44

One Too Many
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Well, I bought my first hat lemon. I mean, I’ve bought hats in worse condition, but I knew it and paid less for them.

I’m fine with this - everything is in workable order, I just have to put it back together.
Mid-1950s (I think) Stetson Twenty-Five. No, not stripped for parts.

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Stars on liner and sweat, but the liner has a mid-50s-esque plastic tip.
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Hat box without lid (said so in the fine print of the listing, I just didn’t read it closely enough):
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This is about as good of a job as I’ll do getting the pork pie crease out of the crown:
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The liner stinks like sweaty sneakers. Can anyone tell me what I can use to clean it?
I’ve cleaned liners with Woolite before. Since it’s not a pristine hat, likely not too big a risk. A little work and you’ll be loving this hat. My 25 has become like my best friend.
 

CRH

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West Branch, IA
Well, I bought my first hat lemon. I mean, I’ve bought hats in worse condition, but I knew it and paid less for them.

I’m fine with this - everything is in workable order, I just have to put it back together.
Mid-1950s (I think) Stetson Twenty-Five. No, not stripped for parts.

View attachment 612791
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View attachment 612793

Stars on liner and sweat, but the liner has a mid-50s-esque plastic tip.
View attachment 612794
View attachment 612795

Hat box without lid (said so in the fine print of the listing, I just didn’t read it closely enough):
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This is about as good of a job as I’ll do getting the pork pie crease out of the crown:
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The liner stinks like sweaty sneakers. Can anyone tell me what I can use to clean it?
Not a lemon. Stinky hat puzzle? Worth your time and effort to get it back together
 
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Well, I bought my first hat lemon. I mean, I’ve bought hats in worse condition, but I knew it and paid less for them.

I’m fine with this - everything is in workable order, I just have to put it back together.
Mid-1950s (I think) Stetson Twenty-Five. No, not stripped for parts.

View attachment 612791
View attachment 612792
View attachment 612793

Stars on liner and sweat, but the liner has a mid-50s-esque plastic tip.
View attachment 612794
View attachment 612795

Hat box without lid (said so in the fine print of the listing, I just didn’t read it closely enough):
View attachment 612796

This is about as good of a job as I’ll do getting the pork pie crease out of the crown:
View attachment 612797
View attachment 612798

The liner stinks like sweaty sneakers. Can anyone tell me what I can use to clean it?
Oh Durn…. Just think of it as you got a 1950s Stetson 25 from IKEA!! After a bit of work I think you’ll be pleased.
 
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Portis Lite-Wate Breeze-Lux
“Zephyr Band” Crushable - Rollable
Rakish 4 5/8 to 3 3/4 crown as shaped (5 1/2 Open)
2 3/8 Brim with Rolled Underwelt
Taupe Felt with Brown/Taupe Striped Ribbon

This light weight Portis has been languishing on my watch list for some time getting passed over for other targets but I finally pulled the trigger and boy am I glad I didn’t end up passing on this one. It is fairly unique at least to me as I don’t have many other hats with a grosgrain sweatband.. not that I wear much for sure. Portis calls this the “Zephyr Band” and indicates this “Lite-Wate” Breeze-Lux is Crushable and Rollable. The Swans Down Finish felt is a very light grey brown that might be in the taupe family. The 2 3/8 brim is finished with a rolled under welt attempting to approximate the look of a Cavanagh edge when snapped down. It also features a very cool brown and taupe striped grosgrain ribbon and wind trolley. Very well adorned for a lightweight felt and non leather sweatband hat. It is tagged 6 7/8 but fit a bit more snuggly…. however as I suspected it loosened up a bit after pulling it on and wearing around today. The final cool feature is the neato multi sports liner. If I was to guess age in this one… I’m thinking later 50s to early 60s. Though I don’t have much experience with Portis. It also came with a pretty nice Portis Hats box. Really loving this hat for its everyday wearability and the deal on the whole. The green feather though…..

Thanks to @Randall Renshaw for nudging me on this one some time back.

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Randall Renshaw

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Portis Lite-Wate Breeze-Lux
“Zephyr Band” Crushable - Rollable
Rakish 4 5/8 to 3 3/4 crown as shaped (5 1/2 Open)
2 3/8 Brim with Rolled Underwelt
Taupe Felt with Brown/Taupe Striped Ribbon

This light weight Portis has been languishing on my watch list for some time getting passed over for other targets but I finally pulled the trigger and boy am I glad I didn’t end up passing on this one. It is fairly unique at least to me as I don’t have many other hats with a grosgrain sweatband.. not that I wear much for sure. Portis calls this the “Zephyr Band” and indicates this “Lite-Wate” Breeze-Lux is Crushable and Rollable. The Swans Down Finish felt is a very light grey brown that might be in the taupe family. The 2 3/8 brim is finished with a rolled under welt attempting to approximate the look of a Cavanagh edge when snapped down. It also features a very cool brown and taupe striped grosgrain ribbon and wind trolley. Very well adorned for a lightweight felt and non leather sweatband hat. It is tagged 6 7/8 but fit a bit more snuggly…. however as I suspected it loosened up a bit after pulling it on and wearing around today. The final cool feature is the neato multi sports liner. If I was to guess age in this one… I’m thinking later 50s to early 60s. Though I don’t have much experience with Portis. It also came with a pretty nice Portis Hats box. Really loving this hat for its everyday wearability and the deal on the whole. The green feather though…..

Thanks to @Randall Renshaw for nudging me on this one some time back.

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Sweeeet!!
Now a summer pinstripe suit is in order!
 

Mighty44

One Too Many
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Portis Lite-Wate Breeze-Lux
“Zephyr Band” Crushable - Rollable
Rakish 4 5/8 to 3 3/4 crown as shaped (5 1/2 Open)
2 3/8 Brim with Rolled Underwelt
Taupe Felt with Brown/Taupe Striped Ribbon

This light weight Portis has been languishing on my watch list for some time getting passed over for other targets but I finally pulled the trigger and boy am I glad I didn’t end up passing on this one. It is fairly unique at least to me as I don’t have many other hats with a grosgrain sweatband.. not that I wear much for sure. Portis calls this the “Zephyr Band” and indicates this “Lite-Wate” Breeze-Lux is Crushable and Rollable. The Swans Down Finish felt is a very light grey brown that might be in the taupe family. The 2 3/8 brim is finished with a rolled under welt attempting to approximate the look of a Cavanagh edge when snapped down. It also features a very cool brown and taupe striped grosgrain ribbon and wind trolley. Very well adorned for a lightweight felt and non leather sweatband hat. It is tagged 6 7/8 but fit a bit more snuggly…. however as I suspected it loosened up a bit after pulling it on and wearing around today. The final cool feature is the neato multi sports liner. If I was to guess age in this one… I’m thinking later 50s to early 60s. Though I don’t have much experience with Portis. It also came with a pretty nice Portis Hats box. Really loving this hat for its everyday wearability and the deal on the whole. The green feather though…..

Thanks to @Randall Renshaw for nudging me on this one some time back.

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That’s a beauty, Joe. Nice box, too!
 

The Lost Cowboy

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Find someone who has a So-Clean CPAP cleaning machine... Its essentially an ozone generator... Drop the liner in the bin and run it though a few cycles
Thanks Rick, I am not from this area and don’t know a single soul except my family. This machine looks interesting though, I definitely want to learn more about it!
 

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