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[Lefty]

This hat is probably from the late 1920's as it came in a Montgomery Ward St. Paul Minnesota box with a 10 cent stamp dating from 1927.

This Hat reads Royal Stetson Deluxe as opposed to the later more common Stetson Royal Deluxe.

I love the hat, but I disagree with your dating. I think the hat just ended up in that box. Here's a Stetson that I just bought that's almost certainly 40s with the same style sweat markings and liner as your hat. I'm not even sure that Stetson was using these designations in the 20s.

 

[J.T.Marcus]

The crease is in the style of FDR's Campaign Hat in Warm Springs, GA.

Would that be this hat?

 

[rlk]

Would that be this hat?

Yes that is the hat, bash isn't identical but similar. The hat itself certainly looks close Ribbon looks identical as do the proportions. That hat was from the late 1920's. The box was a specifically designed shipping box for hats which fits the hat, addressed to the location where the hat came from. The stamp stayed in use until the early 1930's. M.Wards would go through their postage promptly so they wouldn't be using old stamps for long. You have a number of other E C Olson stamped hats on the site all of which appear to be later in style and/or mention their multiple locations.

 

[rlk]

I love the hat, but I disagree with your dating. I think the hat just ended up in that box. Here's a Stetson that I just bought that's almost certainly 40s with the same style sweat markings and liner as your hat. I'm not even sure that Stetson was using these designations in the 20s.

Not actually the same stamping, letters are thicker and closer together on yours. Lettering is a different size(smaller) on liner as well Yes, the name designation is the same.

 

[jpbales]

this thread is great for dating stetsons:
http://www.thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?t=34210&page=5&highlight=select

 

[carouselvic]

Stetson first used "Royal" in 1935. Granted a trademark 3-10-36.
Stetson first used vita-felt 7-30-1940. Granted a trademark 12-24 1940.
I would expect an old "Royal" to look like;

 

[Lefty]

this thread is great for dating stetsons:
http://www.thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?t=34210&page=5&highlight=select

JtL's thead on dating them by liners is also great.

 

[Dreispitz]

This is a traditional German velour hat (hut) style. I am not aware of Hut + Mode as a hat maker (maybe Dreispitz can add input) but it was / is most likely a store chain. Also I am not aware of Wilman & Co. Los Angeles. In most cases this type of hat would be made in Germany/Austria/Italy and exported to the US. Could it be some type of modification / reblock of the original?

Hi,

I have checked on a "Hut & Mode" shop. Breiter Hats of of Munich uses Hut & Mode in its yellow pages entry. Hut & Mode translates as hat and fashion. Maybe, the print in the lining is more of a maker´s givaway. Would be good to get a closeup.

Dreispitz

 

[rlk]

JtL's thead on dating them by liners is also great.

Thanks for all the helpful Links. I guess I was mislead by the stamp and the strong resemblance to the FDR Hat.
I added one more liner from an old bowler to that thread.

 

[warmentrout]

This is a traditional German velour hat (hut) style. I am not aware of Hut + Mode as a hat maker (maybe Dreispitz can add input) but it was / is most likely a store chain. Also I am not aware of Wilman & Co. Los Angeles. In most cases this type of hat would be made in Germany/Austria/Italy and exported to the US. Could it be some type of modification / reblock of the original?

I did rebash it. It had a center crease and the back was higher than the front. But other than me rebashing it and giving it a good brushing nothing has been donr to it that I know of. The lining seems to be glued to the top of the crown so I'm assuming it has never been out of the hat.

 

[gtdean48]

Technically not new but reworked...

Here is my Stetson Pinnacle after Major Moore magic with newly bound edge & a ribbon replacement that is a dark taupe, just a subtle contrast but EXCELLENT!...

 

[gtdean48]

reworked pinnacle on my head...

not sure what is going on with the digi camera, could be from the picture behind me...

 

[gtdean48]

New Akubra Zephyr

This is for the coming Spring/Summer. It is poly-straw in fawn, vented crown. Very sweet!

 

[RBH]

This is for the coming Spring/Summer. It is poly-straw in fawn, vented crown. Very sweet!

I like the shape of that one, but maybe a little wider ribbon for the band?

 

[HarpPlayerGene]

I like the shape of that one, but maybe a little wider ribbon for the band?

Wider!?! THIS coming from RUSTY?

 

[BobC]

Wider!?! THIS coming from RUSTY?

I went back and read that several times to make sure it was really there. lol lol lol

 

[Wil Tam]

not for me

This is for the coming Spring/Summer. It is poly-straw in fawn, vented crown. Very sweet!

ummm not so much ... it looks too plasticky to me [huh]

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[gtdean48]

I like the shape of that one, but maybe a little wider ribbon for the band?

It has a nice leather band that I'm thinking of changing to 12 ligne ribbon but it does give the hat some heft.

 

[gtdean48]

ummm not so much ... it looks too plasticky to me [huh]

Wil, it does have a shine to it that is magnified by the flash some what. I bought it mainly because I'm tired of regular straw hats only lasting me about 1 season here in Georgia. I can't help getting caught in a thunder shower & then they are done for. Will see if this one hangs in there.

 

[rlk]

Mossant

Recently acquired from ebay.fr Nice soft moldable felt. Unfortunately a recovering victim of a moth banquet but looks OK.


MOSSANT HAT AVAILABLE:
Also, for you big-headed guys, I sold a Dobbs Hat to a man in France who has offered me a couple of hats, most notably a gorgeous Mossant Med. Grey Satin Hare(semi-furry) but it is a 61 cm. If someone is interested PM me and I can email pic's and refer you to him. Hope that is not against any rules.
Perhaps I need to clarify, the hat above is not the one available although the color is similar.