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moontheloon

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Elegant hat made in green fur felt
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A full description soon in the appropriate threads

More to come with some weird Borsalino fu Lazzaro, Barbisio and others

that shade of green is ridiculously gorgeous
 

moehawk

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Hey all!
Last week, while doing a late evening perusal of Goodwill.com, I spotted a listing for a "Tiger Special dress hat". There were three low res pics of an old, rather thrashed-looking greyish-blackish hat. I usually will contact sellers about condition of leather and stitching, but this was almost halfway through one-day listing, so I just took a chance on a hat that needed love and dropped a 4 dollar opening bid.
It arrived Tuesday, and boy, did it need love! The sweatband, while present and in decent shape, was completely detached with a few twists of rotten thread hanging off. The 2 3/8" grosgrain ribbon and bow were rumpled. I took a couple of pics to try to reassemble it as close as I could, but the ribbon was about as fragile as tissue paper and fell apart as I removed it. The brim binding seems in good shape, but I'm not going to tug on it or anythinbg. Here's a few pics of the details with the hat apart.

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Note the stamp on the back of the sweat for the patent-pending leather tratment process.
The factory tag, before manipulation of the felt made it crumble:

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The bow...you can see a little of how beat the poor thing was.

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The bow was nearly at the rear of the hat. There was no liner. The felt, while slightly mothed, is thin and light, very dense and in great condition.

After giving it a naptha bath I tried my best to re-sew the unreeded sweat the way it was originally stitched in, but after several attempts I discovered I have neither the eyesight nor the dexterity to sew those tiny stitches, so to preserve the leather (and my sanity) from further damage, I just fudged in the sweat the best I could to make it wearable. No pics of fudged in sweatband.
I replaced that WAR with a (1 1/8") mid-ribbon, mostly because it was what I had that looked best on it.

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The details:
Crown: 6" open
Brim: 2 1/4"
Weight: 91 grams

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I know I'm not very good at determining age of hats, but I'm going out on a limb here and guessing late 20's maybe early 30's. I, as always, welcome opinions more expert than mine.
 

moehawk

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Thanks, Fruno!
it must be a special tiger indeed to make your day, Alan, with your collection...
the ribbon definately has a burnt hair smell, and something cellulose-y mixed in, hard to tell with that protien fiber funk whether it's more cottony or papery. Still, older than I first thought. Also, something I just noticed about it is the brim binding is not centered, it's about 1/2" on top of the brim, and 3/8" below.
That brown one you posted it amazing...who is the maker?
 

Denton

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Really nice Tiger Special!

I have a vague memory of a post by Brad Bowers about that kind of floppy ribbon treatment, not quite in back of the crown but toward the back. I think Brad said this style was fashionable for a year or two, but I don't remember what year or years.

You have been picking up some fine hats lately, Moehawk.
 

moehawk

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Thanks, Denton and hatsRme!
I was really lucky to spot this one and recognize that it was special. (TIGER special! :D)
Hopefully the Professor will check out this lid and add his expert opinion to the discussion.
 

LuvMyMan

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Michigan
Hey all!
Last week, while doing a late evening perusal of Goodwill.com, I spotted a listing for a "Tiger Special dress hat". There were three low res pics of an old, rather thrashed-looking greyish-blackish hat. I usually will contact sellers about condition of leather and stitching, but this was almost halfway through one-day listing, so I just took a chance on a hat that needed love and dropped a 4 dollar opening bid.
It arrived Tuesday, and boy, did it need love! The sweatband, while present and in decent shape, was completely detached with a few twists of rotten thread hanging off. The 2 3/8" grosgrain ribbon and bow were rumpled. I took a couple of pics to try to reassemble it as close as I could, but the ribbon was about as fragile as tissue paper and fell apart as I removed it. The brim binding seems in good shape, but I'm not going to tug on it or anythinbg. Here's a few pics of the details with the hat apart.

104317b5af4009050c8251e8a5a42d83.jpg
2a55830cb11c21bef6fe96ebb8b7d5fb.jpg
4bd491f3f154f9a68735d94e8eca941b.jpg


Note the stamp on the back of the sweat for the patent-pending leather tratment process.
The factory tag, before manipulation of the felt made it crumble:

2491808c0be7507df6193d78c7300767.jpg


The bow...you can see a little of how beat the poor thing was.

5ecdd42f210f849d27c5b06f493b50e9.jpg
be28740296f0b7856ac6fa93b68fc3ac.jpg


The bow was nearly at the rear of the hat. There was no liner. The felt, while slightly mothed, is thin and light, very dense and in great condition.

After giving it a naptha bath I tried my best to re-sew the unreeded sweat the way it was originally stitched in, but after several attempts I discovered I have neither the eyesight nor the dexterity to sew those tiny stitches, so to preserve the leather (and my sanity) from further damage, I just fudged in the sweat the best I could to make it wearable. No pics of fudged in sweatband.
I replaced that WAR with a (1 1/8") mid-ribbon, mostly because it was what I had that looked best on it.

a25815d5b7a4ee95ad26003dd6bfa6db.jpg
97572aa8f0dc5c3121ab3414a995b8fd.jpg


The details:
Crown: 6" open
Brim: 2 1/4"
Weight: 91 grams

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I know I'm not very good at determining age of hats, but I'm going out on a limb here and guessing late 20's maybe early 30's. I, as always, welcome opinions more expert than mine.



Wow you sure have done a great job on that hat!
 

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