picked up a Schott 641HH cafe racer in horsehide

[Harris HTM]

Hmmm, if this new jacket is 3-3.5oz then it is a heavier leather than what schott use in their 618 or 641. Before you buy it treeman verify this with schott.

 

[TREEMAN]

Hmmm, if this new jacket is 3-3.5oz then it is a heavier leather than what schott use in their 618 or 641. Before you buy it treeman verify this with schott.

You bet I will Harris. I also want to confirm that they stopped fusing the horsehide.

 

[Harris HTM]

You bet I will Harris. I also want to confirm that they stopped fusing the horsehide.

Let us know what they replied. I am curious to see if indeed this is a thicker leather. I have a 618hh, the leather is much lighter than an aero fqhh or even schott steerhide but still an amazing leather. I had posted a thread with some photos some time ago, regarding grain and creasing

 

[TREEMAN]

According to Jerri at Schott....it's
the same horsehide, they only use one.

 

[Harris HTM]

According to Jerri at Schott....it's
the same horsehide, they only use one.

Hmmm. As I mentioned earlier I do own a Schott horsehide (618) and the leather, though fantastic, is definitely lighter than my schott steerhides and my aeros (both of them are supposed to be 3-3.5oz). I don't know if this is the case also for the OP with the 641hh, compared to his 611. But still the leather is great. I checked in the schott website, there is a review of this new jacket, according to which there are no football underarms as well.

 

[TREEMAN]

I was bummed out a little that it was the same HH....I thought this was Schott increasing the thickness of there HH to keep up with the competition. Schott says it's lighter weight hides are 2.5-3oz and there heavyweight is 3-3.5oz. So in reality you could get a lite weight @ 3oz and a heavy @ 3oz. So if they get a batch of 3oz leather that lasts them 6 months of jacket making...that's what you get. On the other hand your friend could have the same jacket as you and his is 3.5oz., and his looks better and feels thicker.

 

[andy b.]

Hey Andy...6000 miles away!! Glad you have your 141 with you. The reason for the pics was to see how the horsehide was breaking in so far. I could see from the orig. pics that it was a couple sizes too big. So in that case you prob didn't wear it that much in which case it's not broken in. Listing it in TFL classified would be a good idea. Anyhow if you got pics of the horse putum up... You in the 141 too!! It's all good!!

That was not me wearing the jacket in the pics above.
Anyway, it wasn't THAT much too large for me, and in fact I did wear it almost constantly, so it is very broken in. It looks very similar to what xOUTLAWx posted. I swear I posted pics here. I don't have any on my laptop.
I think I have a pic of me in the 141 in Rome last fall. I'll see if I can find it and post it. I mean, I can take a pic in the 141 any time because it's about 2' from me and I wear it almost every day.

 

[jacketjunkie]

The moment when someone mistakes your girlfriend for you...

 

[Harris HTM]

I was bummed out a little that it was the same HH....I thought this was Schott increasing the thickness of there HH to keep up with the competition. Schott says it's lighter weight hides are 2.5-3oz and there heavyweight is 3-3.5oz. So in reality you could get a lite weight @ 3oz and a heavy @ 3oz. So if they get a batch of 3oz leather that lasts them 6 months of jacket making...that's what you get. On the other hand your friend could have the same jacket as you and his is 3.5oz., and his looks better and feels thicker.

I see. I guess if you really wanna get a thick and thick hh maybe you should look into other brands, although the similar style of aero I think is a bit bulkier. If the weight is no issue, then go for it, the schott hh is great.