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humanshoes

One Too Many
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If I remember,I made mine so the center would touch.
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That's the ticket Dog.
 

milandro

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Very nice.

Mine is cylindric one and has a circumference smaller than I need for myself of 56cm ( 7) . I don’t know if I am ever going to use it the same way you want to. I have used it to reblock a hat into something which doesn’t have a flat top but a domed one but I think I could have made it flat. The hat was already an oval and after the cylindric block I have put it on my stretcher. Now looks like this.
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I recently acquired a beautiful antique device that was used for measuring hat ribbons. There are centimeter and meter measurements on the dials.

Anyone ever come across anything similar, or can ID the name of the maker? Based on the “Brevete SGDG” I assume it’s of French origin. Thanks in advance.

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Tonio, Sorry for the late reply. Fantastic find! You have many! I will have to look through my Museo dell’Arte del Cappello di Ghiffa photos because they had a section dedicated to ribbons / bows but I don't recall seeing such an apparatus before.
 

milandro

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It looks great milandro. I'm not much of a hat block maker, but these oval flat tops are relatively simple. I may regret using select pine instead of poplar, but I don't expect these blocks to get a lot of heavy use.

Thanks! I was toying with the idea ( since the top of my cylindrical block is removable) to have someone making another plate with a groove. I think this is really easy with anyone having a good command of a router. So I will have a proper telescope block, with a flat dome.
 

humanshoes

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Thanks! I was toying with the idea ( since the top of my cylindrical block is removable) to have someone making another plate with a groove. I think this is really easy with anyone having a good command of a router. So I will have a proper telescope block, with a flat dome.
Sounds doable milandro. Let us know how you make out.
 

milandro

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I will, I have a friend who has just started sharing a workshop with other people doing woodwork. They have all the necessary equipment to make this and many other things that may come handy. We’ll see.
 

ItsJacob

New in Town
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Nashville, TN
I’ve always been curious and I’ve never asked the question, but what is the next step after purchasing a conformateur and getting the exact measurements? How do you transfer those to a hat?
 

jlee562

I'll Lock Up
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I’ve always been curious and I’ve never asked the question, but what is the next step after purchasing a conformateur and getting the exact measurements? How do you transfer those to a hat?

The formillion is the inverse of the conformateur and has pins that push outward to duplicate one's headshape. After the sweat has been installed the hat can be conformed with the formillion. Skip to about the 15 min mark...

 
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Haha too funny, But seriously this is a really cool tool


It’s not cheap! It might well be worth the cost to a hatter, but since I already have a band block made from my head shape via a conformateur (free, or at least included in the price of a hat), I don’t see the appeal for a “customer.” If it’s just for yourself, you’d only use it once and that makes the price prohibitive.

There are also much cheaper versions that work perfectly, but I applaud anyone who designs and makes hat making tools.
 

milandro

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Conformers or conformateurs have to be the ultimate status accessory for hatters ( mad or otherwise ;) ), the only question is whether conformers are really THE über-comfort creators or not. Yes, you can then and there conform a hat to someone’s head but would it stay conformed and how long?

I wonder.

I mean if a hat conforms to my head after some time from wearing due to moisture and heat but then returns to the original shape once it is not warn for a while this tells me that felt (like most materials) do have some form elasticity but also "form memory “. In other words, most hats will be conformed but then also conform back to what they were before they were conformed.

Lock & co. says they don’t use for all hats but they use them mostly for hard hats


Regardless, I would love to have one for the looks of it but I am not sure that I could ever shed the necessary cash for it.
 
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Conformers or conformateurs have to be the ultimate status accessory for hatters ( mad or otherwise ;) ), the only question is whether conformers are really THE über-comfort creators or not. Yes, you can then and there conform a hat to someone’s head but would it stay conformed and how long?

I wonder.

I mean if a hat conforms to my head after some time from wearing due to moisture and heat but then returns to the original shape once it is not warn for a while this tells me that felt (like most materials) do have some form elasticity but also "form memory “. In other words, most hats will be conformed but then also conform back to what they were before they were conformed.

Lock & co. says they don’t use for all hats but they use them mostly for hard hats


Regardless, I would love to have one for the looks of it but I am not sure that I could ever shed the necessary cash for it.
I think Lock&Co have the right approach to the use of the device. Makes perfect sense to use it for a hard hat and those would keep the conformed shape as well. For soft felt hats it's another matter. It could be useful if the conformateur was used as a template for creating a hat block to shape the hat from scratch. Taking the round oval, regular oval or long oval block a step further as it were. The original ones just look so cool I've been looking for an affordable one for ages. Came close a few times, but not there yet.
 

milandro

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Precisely, I can envisage how one could make a 3D model of a head so the ideal conformateur for someone’s hat would be a molded block upon which one would have the shape of your own hat built-in the hat. Even more so if one could actually “ spray” the hair fibre on the mold with a 3D printer ( which would be the perfect anachronism , using a 21st century device to make an item, a hat, with the materials used in a far past!).

By the same maker

 

Hat and Rehat

Call Me a Cab
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Very nice.

Mine is cylindric one and has a circumference smaller than I need for myself of 56cm ( 7) . I don’t know if I am ever going to use it the same way you want to. I have used it to reblock a hat into something which doesn’t have a flat top but a domed one but I think I could have made it flat. The hat was already an oval and after the cylindric block I have put it on my stretcher. Now looks like this.
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You can "grow" a block one size pretty easily. Stretch an old felt over it, then cut off the brim. It was a common practice years ago.
 

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