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Phoenix Hat Company

Robieman

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Tennessee
Thanks guys for all the input. It's appreciated. I think I have narrowed it down to Silverbelly, Bone, or Black. I think the Sahara looks a bit too dark for me in most lighting. Maybe I'm going to need some felt swatches.

I found one of Rick's hats in silverbelly that looks really close to what I have in vintage hats albeit the earliest being late 40's. This one belongs to @Robieman

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Not sure how that pic looks on your computer, but on mine, it is a bit more gray than the hat actually is. The hat, in reality, is a little whiter than this pic. Not bone white, just a bit lighter than this. But it is a good color, and goes with everything, and I find myself wearing the hat quite often. I don't think you can go wrong with this color, but then that's just me.
 

humanshoes

One Too Many
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1,446
Location
Tennessee
In natural lighting would the Sand be closer to the Natural but a bit yellow?
Sand is several shades lighter than the Undyed Natural. I don't see any yellow in the Sand, but we've already discussed my color deficient vision. Here's a great promotional picture (The Last Best West Hats) showing Winchester's basic colors in natural sunlight.

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Sand is several shades lighter than the Undyed Natural. I don't see any yellow in the Sand, but we've already discussed my color deficient vision. Here's a great promotional picture (The Last Best West Hats) showing Winchester's basic colors in natural sunlight.

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Maybe it's my deficient vision too but Sand often has a yellow cast, especially with a high contrast ribbon like brown.
 

1961MJS

My Mail is Forwarded Here
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3,370
Location
Norman Oklahoma
Hi I find that Bone, Black, and Chocolate are more consistent across the vendors. I have several "tan" hats, but don't remember what Winchester color they are dangit. I do have 2 Undyed Naturals, but the others may be Sand or Sahara.

Later
 

humanshoes

One Too Many
Messages
1,446
Location
Tennessee
New addition to the hat shop. The elusive Singer 108W20 binding machine. It didn't come with any binder attachments, but, incredibly, College Sewing in the UK has most of the binder parts for sale. This old beauty was sold "for parts or repair", but after some quality time on the workbench it's now sewing like a champ. It may or may not make my life easier, but I do love the old iron.

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T Jones

I'll Lock Up
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Location
Central Ohio
New addition to the hat shop. The elusive Singer 108W20 binding machine. It didn't come with any binder attachments, but, incredibly, College Sewing in the UK has most of the binder parts for sale. This old beauty was sold "for parts or repair", but after some quality time on the workbench it's now sewing like a champ. It may or may not make my life easier, but I do love the old iron.

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Nice!
 
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10,840
Location
vancouver, canada
New addition to the hat shop. The elusive Singer 108W20 binding machine. It didn't come with any binder attachments, but, incredibly, College Sewing in the UK has most of the binder parts for sale. This old beauty was sold "for parts or repair", but after some quality time on the workbench it's now sewing like a champ. It may or may not make my life easier, but I do love the old iron.

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It fits your company name....Phoenix....from the ashes....or in this case from the trashes!
 

humanshoes

One Too Many
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1,446
Location
Tennessee
It fits your company name....Phoenix....from the ashes....or in this case from the trashes!
Great poetry bb. Been reading Alan Sullivan again? Hah! Actually, I shudder at the thought of these old machines ending up on the scrap heap. My house has become somewhat of a rehab center/orphanage for broken and abandoned antique sewing machines. I'd save them all if I could.
 
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Location
vancouver, canada
Great poetry bb. Been reading Alan Sullivan again? Hah! Actually, I shudder at the thought of these old machines ending up on the scrap heap. My house has become somewhat of a rehab center/orphanage for broken and abandoned antique sewing machines. I'd save them all if I could.
probably better than stray cats! I feel the same way about mountain bicycles. Had to stop when my garage was too full of them and no room for the car. I downsized about 15 of them to a more manageable 12 so now I can fit one car in at least.
 

T Jones

I'll Lock Up
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Location
Central Ohio
I think you'll be able to do a fine job with that beautiful Singer 201 of yours T.
Thank you, Rick. With everything's that been going on around here at the ol' homestead over the last several months, I still haven't been able to sit down and learn how to use it yet. The wife went to her opthalmologist yesterday, and after examining her, he sent her immediately to a Retinal Specialist for emergency laser surgery. She was close to losing her sight in one eye. She has to go back again in two weeks to finish it. The wife said the laser surgery wasn't painless as advertised. She said the whole process was pretty uncomfortable. So now, I'm down with a little more back issues again. I'm down just a little but I'm definitely not out! Just a temporary irritation. No problem! I'll get that 201 going one way or another!
 

humanshoes

One Too Many
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1,446
Location
Tennessee
Thank you, Rick. With everything's that been going on around here at the ol' homestead over the last several months, I still haven't been able to sit down and learn how to use it yet. The wife went to her opthalmologist yesterday, and after examining her, he sent her immediately to a Retinal Specialist for emergency laser surgery. She was close to losing her sight in one eye. She has to go back again in two weeks to finish it. The wife said the laser surgery wasn't painless as advertised. She said the whole process was pretty uncomfortable. So now, I'm down with a little more back issues again. I'm down just a little but I'm definitely not out! Just a temporary irritation. No problem! I'll get that 201 going one way or another!
My best wishes for a speedy recovery for you and the Mrs. T. It's hard to keep a good man down. A good woman...impossible.
 
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19,001
Location
Central California
Well, the USPS tracking shows that Rick received my Sunrise Hat Supply nutria hat body today. I’m on pins and needles waiting for his impressions. My first reaction to the felt was disappointment, but the more time I spent with the felt the more hope I have that it can be made into a western hat that I’m going to love. I bought two of the nutria felts: I sent Rick the felt in the pewter color and I sent VS the felt in the almond color. I’m going with different specifications, but I’m excited to see the finished hats side by side. Now comes the waiting. I hate the waiting.
 
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humanshoes

One Too Many
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Location
Tennessee
Well, the USPS tracking shows that Rick received my Sunrise Hat Supply nutria hat body today. I’m on pins and needles waiting for his impressions. My first reaction to the felt was disappointment, but the more time I spent with the felt the more hope I have that it can be made into a western hat that I’m going to love. I bought two of the nutria felts: I sent Rick the felt in the pewter color and I sent VS the felt in the almond color. I’m going with different specifications, but I’m excited to see the finished hats side by side. Now comes the waiting. I hate the waiting.
I received the hat body in good shape yesterday Brent. I, just like you I'm sure, was hoping for dense and pliable and, while it is certainly densely felted and nicely pounced, it's doesn't qualify as pliable. No more so than Winchester's. With your permission (please), I'll knock this one around a bit to see if I can get it closer to what I know we're both looking for. Of course, I may ruin it and have to buy you a replacement, but I just gotta know if it can be done.
 

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